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Pablo Ferreira wrote on 29 Jan 2021 01:29
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Hey there!

I just upgrade my guix system to kernel 5.10.11, using guix pull and sudo
guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm. When I reboot the system, it say
"no media present", and go to bios setup.

When I change from uefi to legacy, the system show what you can see in the
picture.

I think my cpu board is gone, nothing about Guix System. But I need to be
sure. Is there any clue of test? I had a pen drive guix system 1.1.0 and I
can access the drive no problem. But I can't boot the system.

Obs: OMG I'm fat. ?
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Leo Famulari wrote on 30 Jan 2021 00:20
(name . Pablo Ferreira)(address . santoross08@gmail.com)(address . 46165@debbugs.gnu.org)
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 09:29:54PM -0300, Pablo Ferreira wrote:
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> Hey there!
>
> I just upgrade my guix system to kernel 5.10.11, using guix pull and sudo
> guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm. When I reboot the system, it say
> "no media present", and go to bios setup.
>
> When I change from uefi to legacy, the system show what you can see in the
> picture.
>
> I think my cpu board is gone, nothing about Guix System. But I need to be
> sure. Is there any clue of test? I had a pen drive guix system 1.1.0 and I
> can access the drive no problem. But I can't boot the system.
>
> Obs: OMG I'm fat. ?

Can you share your config.scm?
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Pablo Ferreira wrote on 30 Jan 2021 01:02
(name . Leo Famulari)(address . leo@famulari.name)(address . 46165@debbugs.gnu.org)
CAG5vDYjt3NwFHSLig4HZe9d-MnjzUaptmq96kAr97cfPEOewjg@mail.gmail.com
No, I can't.

Not now. I can't boot the system, only use android. I have to boot with my
pen drive with Trisquel 8.

But I'm not sure if it is. The upgrade do it well. If somethink goes wrong,
the reconfigure do not even run.

Em sex, 29 de jan de 2021 20:20, Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> escreveu:

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> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 09:29:54PM -0300, Pablo Ferreira wrote:
> > Hey there!
> >
> > I just upgrade my guix system to kernel 5.10.11, using guix pull and sudo
> > guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm. When I reboot the system, it say
> > "no media present", and go to bios setup.
> >
> > When I change from uefi to legacy, the system show what you can see in
> the
> > picture.
> >
> > I think my cpu board is gone, nothing about Guix System. But I need to be
> > sure. Is there any clue of test? I had a pen drive guix system 1.1.0 and
> I
> > can access the drive no problem. But I can't boot the system.
> >
> > Obs: OMG I'm fat. ?
>
> Can you share your config.scm?
>
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Maxime Devos wrote on 30 Jan 2021 10:17
(name . Pablo Ferreira)(address . santoross08@gmail.com)(address . 46165@debbugs.gnu.org)
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On Fri, 2021-01-29 at 21:02 -0300, Pablo Ferreira wrote:
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> No, I can't.
>
> Not now. I can't boot the system, only use android. I have to boot with my pen drive with Trisquel 8.

I'm presuming a setup like this:

* Computer, with following hardware:
+ Hard disk, with broken Guix System+GRUB installation.
+ USB ports, in which a USB drive with a functioning Trisquel is installed
+ Keyboard, screen, etc.

Would it be possible to boot Trisquel on the computer (via the pendrive),
and on the live system mount the relevant filesystems of the hard disk.
(E.g. using gnome-disks, which has a nice interface.)

Here's some speculative troubleshooting:

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> > > When I change from uefi to legacy, the system show what you can see in the
> > > picture.
Legacy == BIOS and UEFI == that other boot system, right?
The GRUB variants for these are the ‘grub’ package and the ‘grub-efi’
package I think (see 10.13 Bootloader Configuration). The bootloader
variant and the booting system probably need to match.

Maxime
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Pablo Ferreira wrote on 1 Feb 2021 14:57
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I friend

Are you saying that the upgrade of the guix did broke the boot system? But
they show not message. How do I reinstall the boot using the pendrive of
Guix System Installation? Can I boot from pendrive then install the grub? I
think I need to think like a Guix user because guix deamon control many
think.

I need to warning the GNU community that the grup.pdf has no instruction
about how to boot a HDD from a pendrive manually.

The Trisquel and Guix System pendrive show not option to HDD boot. I think
this option exist with a normal situation.

Thanks for the feedback.

Em sáb, 30 de jan de 2021 06:17, Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
escreveu:

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> On Fri, 2021-01-29 at 21:02 -0300, Pablo Ferreira wrote:
> > No, I can't.
> >
> > Not now. I can't boot the system, only use android. I have to boot with
> my pen drive with Trisquel 8.
>
> I'm presuming a setup like this:
>
> * Computer, with following hardware:
> + Hard disk, with broken Guix System+GRUB installation.
> + USB ports, in which a USB drive with a functioning Trisquel is
> installed
> + Keyboard, screen, etc.
>
> Would it be possible to boot Trisquel on the computer (via the pendrive),
> and on the live system mount the relevant filesystems of the hard disk.
> (E.g. using gnome-disks, which has a nice interface.)
>
> Here's some speculative troubleshooting:
>
> > > > When I change from uefi to legacy, the system show what you can see
> in the
> > > > picture.
> Legacy == BIOS and UEFI == that other boot system, right?
> The GRUB variants for these are the ‘grub’ package and the ‘grub-efi’
> package I think (see 10.13 Bootloader Configuration). The bootloader
> variant and the booting system probably need to match.
>
> Maxime
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> Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
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>
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Maxime Devos wrote on 2 Feb 2021 12:53
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On Mon, 2021-02-01 at 10:57 -0300, Pablo Ferreira wrote:
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> I friend
>
> Are you saying that the upgrade of the guix did broke the boot system?

Perhaps it was an upgrade of guix, perhaps it was a change in the boot
configuration of the BIOS or UEFI (idk what the exact naming is), perhaps
there is a hardware problem ... I'm just guessing.

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> But they show not message.

What is ‘they’ here? GRUB (from the Trisquel pendrive, or from the Guix
System installation, or from the Guix System installation pendrive)?
The output of the last ‘guix system reconfigure’? The computer's boot
firmware?

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> How do I reinstall the boot using the pendrive
> of Guix System Installation? Can I boot from pendrive then install the grub?
> I think I need to think like a Guix user because guix deamon control many think.

I don't know what's going on with your system, so maybe the following won't
actually fix anything: if you have back-ups of everything important, you could
try to install the *whole* of Guix System again with the installation image.
Though ideally reinstalling everything shouldn't be necessary, it can still
be very effective. I don't see how the guix daemon would interfere.

About just reinstalling GRUB bootloader + GRUB menu entries: that *should*
theoretically be possible, but I don't know how.

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> I need to warning the GNU community that the grup.pdf has no instruction about
> how to boot a HDD from a pendrive manually.

I presume you meant grub.pdf (the PDF version of GRUB's manual) here.
I believed I found some instructions on how to do this on the Web somewhere,
but I can't find the document anymore )-:. Is it really necessary to boot from
a pendrive, only to continue booting via a HDD, instead of booting the HDD
directory?

My (potentially wrong) guess, is that the BIOS boot configuration is set
incorrectly. It depends on the specific computer model, but usually the
settings can be tweaked like this:

* Press some special keyboard configuration when powering on the computer
(usually includes keys like control, alt, and function keys)
* Some menu pops up
* Verify whether ‘boot from hard disk’ or something like that appears in
the boot order. Check whether ‘secure boot’ is disabled. If there is
some kind of boot mode option (UEFI, Legacy, maybe some variants), make
sure the right one for your operating system's installations are selected.

If you believe the manual needs instructions on this, you should raise
that issue at the appropriate grub mailing list.

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> Thanks for the feedback.

If I understand correctly, you were able to boot a Trisquel system from a
pendrive on the computer. Can you mount the root filesystem of the Guix
installation somewhere (e.g. at /mnt) and copy the configuration of guix?
(E.g. using gnome-disks)

Maxime.
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