extraneous recompiles of scm files while editing gnu/packages/

I’ve just been working on a local guix clone, tried building a package

which failed, but not after lots of the usual “newer than compiled”

messages, but fine, I pulled a while earlier and hadn’t rebuilt. But then,

after editing just a few lines in a single file (gnu/packages/haskell.scm),

the following happened, which seems wrong:

rob@garp ~/guix$ nano gnu/packages/haskell.scm

rob@garp ~/guix$ ./pre-inst-env guix build ghc-ansi-wl-pprint

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/ui.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/ui.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/ui.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/guix/ui.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/store.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/store.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/store.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/guix/store.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/store.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix/guix/store.scm.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/build/syscalls.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/build/syscalls.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/build/syscalls.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/guix/build/syscalls.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/build/syscalls.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix/guix/build/syscalls.scm.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/derivations.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/derivations.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/derivations.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/guix/derivations.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/derivations.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix/guix/derivations.scm.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/grafts.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/grafts.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/grafts.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/guix/grafts.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/grafts.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix/guix/grafts.scm.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/profiles.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/profiles.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/profiles.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/guix/profiles.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/build/download.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/build/download.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/build/download.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/guix/build/download.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/build/download.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix/guix/build/download.scm.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/download.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/download.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/download.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/guix/download.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/download.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix/guix/download.scm.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/perl.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/perl.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/perl.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/perl.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/compression.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/compression.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/compression.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/compression.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/admin.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/admin.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/admin.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/admin.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/build-system/python.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/build-system/python.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/guix/build-system/python.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/guix/build-system/python.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/bash.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/bash.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/bash.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/bash.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/guile.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/guile.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/guile.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/guile.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/algebra.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/algebra.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/algebra.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/algebra.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/check.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/check.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/check.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/check.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/linux.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/linux.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/linux.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/linux.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/audio.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/audio.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/audio.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/audio.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/crypto.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/crypto.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/crypto.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/crypto.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/imagemagick.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/imagemagick.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/imagemagick.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/imagemagick.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/python-xyz.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/python-xyz.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/python-xyz.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/python-xyz.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/databases.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/databases.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/databases.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/databases.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/icu4c.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/icu4c.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/icu4c.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/icu4c.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/image.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/image.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/image.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/image.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/tls.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/tls.go

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;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/tls.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/web.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/web.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/web.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/web.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/gtk.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/gtk.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/gtk.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/gtk.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/gl.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/gl.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/gl.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/gl.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/llvm.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/llvm.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/llvm.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/llvm.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/python-compression.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/python-compression.go

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;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/python-compression.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/maths.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/maths.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/maths.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/maths.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/xorg.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/xorg.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/xorg.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/xorg.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/gstreamer.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/gstreamer.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/gstreamer.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/gstreamer.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/video.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/video.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/video.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/video.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/music.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/music.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/music.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/music.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/game-development.scm

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;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/game-development.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/haskell.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/haskell.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/haskell.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/haskell.go

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;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/haskell.scm.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/haskell-check.scm

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;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/haskell-check.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/haskell-crypto.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/haskell-crypto.go

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;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/haskell-web.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/haskell-web.go

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;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/lisp.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/lisp.go

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;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/lisp.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/xdisorg.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/xdisorg.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/xdisorg.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/xdisorg.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/webkit.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/webkit.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/webkit.scm

;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/webkit.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/mpd.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/mpd.go

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;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/guile-xyz.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/guile-xyz.go

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;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/guile-xyz.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/emacs-xyz.scm

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;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/emacs-xyz.go

;;; note: source file /home/rob/guix/gnu/packages/mail.scm

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;;; newer than compiled /run/current-system/profile/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnu/packages/mail.go

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Hi,

Robert Vollmert <rob@vllmrt.net> skribis:

I’d suggest running “make” once you’ve edited a file.

It’s not strictly necessary (Guile then simply evaluates code instead of

running compiled code), but it will allow you to get rid of these

warnings, the compiler might warn you ahead of time of possible

mistakes, and the whole thing will be slightly faster.

Does that make sense?

Ludo’.

It does make sense. However once again my complaint is a bit more about the

developer experience than how to work around the current state. I feel that

a situation where the obvious thing works but is painful (guile debug spam,

slowness) and you need to learn to do things differently (always run make first,

which frequently causes work you don’t even care about, such as a guix-daemon

recompile or po-file work) could be improved upon.

Concretely, this bug report is in response to

In that spirit, “you should run make first” is not answer I’m completely

happy with. :)

Cheers

Robert

Robert Vollmert <rob@vllmrt.net> skribis:

Yes I agree. Things to have to be compiled at one point though. We

could let Guile auto-compile code, but unfortunately that comes with its

own warts: the equivalent of “make clean-go”, for instance when an ABI

incompatibility pops up, is “rm -rf ~/.cache/guile/ccache”, and that too

is something a developer has too learn, and one could argue that it’s

less familiar than “make” or “make clean.”

So, I’m not satisfied with the ./pre-inst-env and ‘make’ workflow, but

we have yet to come up with a concrete proposal for a better workflow.

I was trying to address the “I see recompilation messages” issue that

you raised in the current framework. I didn’t initially interpret the

bug report as a call for a new workflow.

Thanks,

Ludo’.

It’s not meant to be a call for a new workflow, either. The original

suggestion from the “beyond 1.0” thread was a request for a focus on

the developer experience by working on the quality of error messages and

command output. One of the instances where that applies is with respect

to guile recompile scam, as I remarked there.

This bug report specifically is in response to this part of the exchange:

As a concrete proposal, I’d be perfectly happy if, instead of printing

a screen full of guile recompile notifications, I’d get a clear warning

that I should run make instead.

Here’s another example, while working on a local checkout of a channel.

Calling `guild compile` just makes things worse.

$ rm -rf ~/.cache/guile

$ guix build -L . -L ../guix-postgrest puzzledb-frontend

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/bytestring.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/bytestring.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/check.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/check.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/control.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/control.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/text.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/text.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/data.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/data.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/more-data.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/more-data.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/containers.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/containers.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/core.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/core.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/postgrest-deps.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/postgrest-deps.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/postgrest.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/postgrest.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/sql.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/sql.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/template.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/template.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/wai.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/wai.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/service.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/service.go

;;; note: source file ./elm.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/amjb2461gsrcqiw4faifrf3vpyw46r36-elm/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/elm.go

;;; note: source file ./elm2nix.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/amjb2461gsrcqiw4faifrf3vpyw46r36-elm/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/elm2nix.go

;;; note: source file ./versions.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/amjb2461gsrcqiw4faifrf3vpyw46r36-elm/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/versions.go

/gnu/store/xa65v4m6afmsimb0gg5rdr9v63i9qmd3-puzzledb-frontend-20190625-git

$ rob@garp ~/guix-elm$ guild compile -L . -L ../guix-postgrest *.scm

;;; note: auto-compilation is enabled, set GUILE_AUTO_COMPILE=0

;;; or pass the --no-auto-compile argument to disable.

;;; compiling /run/current-system/profile/bin/guild

;;; compiled /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/gnu/store/9alic3caqhay3h8mx4iihpmyj6ymqpcx-guile-2.2.4/bin/guild.go

wrote `/home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix-elm/versions.scm.go'

wrote `/home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix-elm/elm.scm.go'

wrote `/home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix-elm/elm2nix.scm.go’

$ rob@garp ~/guix-elm$ guix build -L . -L ../guix-postgrest puzzledb-frontend

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/bytestring.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/bytestring.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/check.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/check.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/control.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/control.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/text.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/text.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/data.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/data.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/more-data.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/more-data.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/containers.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/containers.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/core.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/core.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/postgrest-deps.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/postgrest-deps.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/postgrest.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/postgrest.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/sql.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/sql.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/template.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/template.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/wai.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/wai.go

;;; note: source file ../guix-postgrest/service.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/sk1j6fkh855cm6ypp6799pgf8wvnlk76-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/service.go

;;; note: source file ./elm.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/amjb2461gsrcqiw4faifrf3vpyw46r36-elm/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/elm.go

;;; found fresh local cache at /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix-elm/elm.scm.go

;;; note: source file ./elm2nix.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/amjb2461gsrcqiw4faifrf3vpyw46r36-elm/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/elm2nix.go

;;; found fresh local cache at /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix-elm/elm2nix.scm.go

;;; note: source file ./versions.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/amjb2461gsrcqiw4faifrf3vpyw46r36-elm/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/versions.go

;;; found fresh local cache at /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix-elm/versions.scm.go

/gnu/store/xa65v4m6afmsimb0gg5rdr9v63i9qmd3-puzzledb-frontend-20190625-git

Robert Vollmert <rob@vllmrt.net> skribis:

[...]

OK, got it. I initially viewed it as an immediate bug because I don’t

see those messages, but that’s because I’m so used to typing ‘make’ etc.

That’s bad (it’s even worse than having to type ‘make’ in the

development environment IMO because it’s a “user-facing” interface.)

How about the patch below? That turns on auto-compilation, which is

probably a good thing in this context; as a side-effect, messages like

those above should disappear.

The only downside is ABI breakage: if we change the ABI of the <package>

record type (which is quite rare), then your channel code will no longer

run; you’ll get a message like:

"<package>: record ABI mismatch; recompilation needed"

and you’ll have to “rm -rf ~/.cache/guile”.

Actually we could probably catch ‘record-abi-mismatch-error’ and

auto-compile when that happens.

Thoughts?

[...]

Bah, Guile is really talkative.

We could redirect Guile’s ‘current-warning-port’ to the bit-bucket

wholesale, but we’d also be missing out on more useful info such as

compiler warnings.

Unfortunately, even if we monkey-patch specifically

‘primitive-load-path’, we’re silencing too much:

(set! primitive-load-path

(let ((do-load-path primitive-load-path))

(lambda* (file #:optional (exception? #t))

(parameterize ((current-warning-port (%make-void-port "w")))

(do-load-path file exception?)))))

Not sure what can be done on the Guix side.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Ludo’.

Hi Ludo’,

thanks for looking into this!

On 9. Jul 2019, at 00:15, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:

I’ve applied your patch and am testing it now. At first glance it doesn’t

improve the situation, compare the output below of running `guix build -L .`

similar to before, after having edited check.scm.

$ guix build -L . postgrest

;;; note: source file ./bytestring.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/v5a8qdcpp32ymfdasfql6n0g13zjkrb9-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/bytestring.go

;;; found fresh local cache at /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix-postgrest/bytestring.scm.go

;;; note: source file ./check.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/v5a8qdcpp32ymfdasfql6n0g13zjkrb9-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/check.go

;;; note: source file ./check.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix-postgrest/check.scm.go

;;; note: auto-compilation is enabled, set GUILE_AUTO_COMPILE=0

;;; or pass the --no-auto-compile argument to disable.

;;; compiling ./check.scm

;;; note: source file ./control.scm

;;; newer than compiled /gnu/store/v5a8qdcpp32ymfdasfql6n0g13zjkrb9-postgrest/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/control.go

;;; found fresh local cache at /home/rob/.cache/guile/ccache/2.2-LE-8-3.A/home/rob/guix-postgrest/control.scm.go

;;; note: source file ./text.scm

[…]

Cheers

Robert

One further data-point, not immediately related to the recompile spam,

but to the proposed work-around when working within the guix repository:

The suggestion was that the default workflow should be to compile the

scheme files using `make`. That does avoid the recompile spam, but:

- adding a scheme file requires going through

1. edit Makefile.am

2. call bootstrap

3. call configure, remembering the mystery localstatedir argument

4. call make, waiting through documentation and nix-daemon compiles

- I get random mysterious documentation builds throughout. E.g. just now:

$ make

make all-recursive

make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rob/guix'

Making all in po/guix

make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rob/guix/po/guix'

make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rob/guix/po/guix'

Making all in po/packages

make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rob/guix/po/packages'

make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rob/guix/po/packages'

make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rob/guix'

Updating ./doc/version.texi

Updating ./doc/version-de.texi

Updating ./doc/version-es.texi

Updating ./doc/version-fr.texi

Updating ./doc/version-ru.texi

Updating ./doc/version-zh_CN.texi

CXX nix/nix-daemon/guix_daemon-nix-daemon.o

[…]

CXXLD guix-daemon

GEN scripts/guix

Compiling Scheme modules...

[ 12%] LOAD guix/build-system/elm.scm

;;; note: source file ./guix/config.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/config.go

;;; note: source file ./guix/config.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/config.go

[ 25%] LOAD guix/build/elm-build-system.scm

guix/build/elm-build-system.scm:127:1: missing closing parenthesis

## call make again with no edits

$ make

make all-recursive

make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rob/guix'

Making all in po/guix

make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rob/guix/po/guix'

make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rob/guix/po/guix'

Making all in po/packages

make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rob/guix/po/packages'

make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rob/guix/po/packages'

make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rob/guix'

MAKEINFO doc/guix.info

MAKEINFO doc/guix.de.info

MAKEINFO doc/guix.es.info

MAKEINFO doc/guix.fr.info

MAKEINFO doc/guix.ru.info

./doc/guix.ru.texi:913: warning: accent command `@,' must not be followed by whitespace

Wide character in warn at /gnu/store/yrgwwr35l01qvnlqgr6d4wbwky3b1d74-profile/bin/makeinfo line 720.

./doc/guix.ru.texi:3881: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not ?

MAKEINFO doc/guix.zh_CN.info

Compiling Scheme modules...

[ 12%] LOAD guix/build-system/elm.scm

;;; note: source file ./guix/config.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/config.go

;;; note: source file ./guix/config.scm

;;; newer than compiled /home/rob/guix/guix/config.go

[ 25%] LOAD guix/build/elm-build-system.scm

guix/build/elm-build-system.scm:127:1: missing closing parenthesis

Some deprecated features have been used. Set the environment

variable GUILE_WARN_DEPRECATED to "detailed" and rerun the

program to get more information. Set it to "no" to suppress

this message.

make[2]: *** [Makefile:5765: make-go] Error 1

make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rob/guix'

make[1]: *** [Makefile:4836: all-recursive] Error 1

make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rob/guix'

make: *** [Makefile:3226: all] Error 2

Let me know if these should be considered separate bugs worth filing.

Things do seem to work stably with the patch, although I still don’t see an

improvement. I do repeatedly get the following warnings now, though they don’t

seem to break things:

[ 75%] GUILEC guix/build/elm-build-system.go

warning: unknown warning type `shadowed-toplevel'

[ 88%] GUILEC guix/import/elm.go

warning: unknown warning type `shadowed-toplevel'

[100%] GUILEC guix/config.go

warning: unknown warning type `shadowed-toplevel'

Hi,

Robert Vollmert <rob@vllmrt.net> skribis:

You only have to type ‘make’, nothing more. ‘bootstrap’ and ‘configure’

only need to be invoked the first time.

I think ‘make’ is behaving as expected here, I don’t see anything

mysterious here.

Yeah, I think we should try to keep issues focused. The issues you

reported are all important, but we need to boil them down to specific

problems we can address.

Thank you,

Ludo’.

Hello,

Robert Vollmert <rob@vllmrt.net> skribis:

The ‘shadowed-toplevel’ warning appeared in Guile 2.2.5 and you must be

using an older version.

Fixed in e429566fbb6af2b65a144cc06902432bc87b9eae.

Thanks,

Ludo’.