[PATCH website] Add community page

Hi Guix!

This patch aims at adding a new page on the website that lists external

resources that talk about guix (conference talks, blog posts and even

academic papers).

Dear,

On Fri, 09 Oct 2020 at 00:38, Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> wrote:

Cool!

[...]

Maybe chronological order? Last first:

Does it make sense to add all the FOSDEM ones? For example:

etc. well what under talks/fosdem-*

All the best,

simon

Hello!

(+Cc: Luís Felipe, the web site designer.)

Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> skribis:

Nice! It was a bit sad that all this material wasn’t linked.

I wonder if “Community” is the right heading and/or if we should group

additional things in there?

At least for the one that’s on YouTube, but perhaps also for the other

videos, we should host a copy at audio-video.gnu.org (I’ll check what it

takes to do that.)

We should also have a policy to not link to material that steers towards

non-free software (I believe the links above are fine).

Last but not least: we should encourage people to submit their things,

because I’m sure there’s much more we could add here! :-)

That’s all I have to say. Luís, everyone: thoughts?

Ludo’.

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

You can open a ticket for audio-video with the webmasters and we can

move it to the AV queue, or you can email audio-video@gnu.org directly.

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Brett M. Gilio

<brettg@gnu.org>

Hi,

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On Monday, October 12, 2020 4:41 PM, Ludovic Courtès ludo@gnu.org wrote:

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Well, my idea was to have these kinds of resources grouped according to their types (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2017-12/msg00356.html).So, instead of a Community resources entry in the Media menu, there would be separate entries like Talks, Papers, etc.

So the Media part of the website could work like the Blog in that you could explore all kinds of media (/lang/media/) or media of some type (e.g. /lang/media/talks/).

Also, at this point you can see that blog posts and media items are resources that usually have a preview with similar information: title, date, summary, etc. Using record types you end up defining one preview procedure for every record type (type->shtml) with pretty much the same body. At that time I was looking for records that allow some kind of inheritance, or GOOPS, to have one preview procedure (or method) that would accept different records/objects with a common ancestor specifying the common fields (title, date, summary, etc.). I tried GOOPS at that time and it worked.

I don't know, I'm still inclined to do it this way...

Hi,

Luis Felipe <luis.felipe.la@protonmail.com> skribis:

Interesting, that makes sense to me, thanks for the reminder!

And yes, there’s already “Videos” and “Screenshots” (without /media in

the URL though), so I guess we could add “Talks” and “Papers” similarly.

Julien, does that look like a reasonable change to make? WDYT?

Thanks,

Ludo’.

Sounds reasonnable, but I won't be able to work on it before next week.

Le 13 octobre 2020 16:06:51 GMT-04:00, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org> a écrit :

Hi,

On Fri, 09 Oct 2020 at 00:38, Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> wrote:

Well, what is the status of this patch?

To put more on the table, we recently discussed on #guix-hpc [1] to list

channels (of package FSDG compliant). It helps for discoverability.

For example,

“Community” section makes sense for this purpose. To be clear, the

subsection “Talks” of “Media” makes sense, as it is discussed; and

another section “Community” listing these channels (and maybe more) make

also sense. WDYT?

1: http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guix-hpc/2020-11-03.log#231059

All the best,

simon

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On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 10:38 AM, zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:

Or maybe add it to the Packages menu item? For example:

Packages (/LANG/packages/)

Channels (/LANG/packages/channels/ or /LANG/channels/)

Also, the Packages page could also mention that that list of packages comes from the Guix channel, but more packages are available from other channels (and link to the new list of channels).

I don't know about the "Community" part because I think the Guix community [is | will be] split into "Libre Only Community" and "Open Source with Proprietary Comunity", so maybe each community should build their own websites that better reflect their own goals? I don't know...

Dear,

On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 17:12, Luis Felipe <luis.felipe.la@protonmail.com> wrote:

Ok. Maybe it is better.

You mean add one sentence in the header of:

http://guix.gnu.org/en/packages/

right?

I do not understand this last statement. The website guix.gnu.org is

"Libre Only"; because it is GNU. Therefore, the channels will be

FSDG-compliant packages only (often variants) and other channels

(often named 'nonfree') will be not listed here. For example, even on

hpc.guix.info which is more permissive, nonfree channels contributed

by Ludo and/or Ricardo) about specific HPC tools are not listed

overthere. What do you have in mind about "Open Source with

non-free"?

All the best,

simon

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On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 6:31 PM, zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:

I mean, modify the introductory paragraph. For example:

···

GNU Guix provides 15,183 packages transparently available as pre-built binaries. These pages provide a complete list of the packages IN GUIX CHANNELS. Our continuous integration system shows their current build status (updated November 4, 2020). CHECK THE CHANNELS PAGE TO LEARN ABOUT OTHER CHANNELS THAT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FREE SOFTWARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE GUIX CHANNEL.

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Or something like that. And maybe the first use of the term "channel" in that paragraph should be linked to the definition of a channel in the manual.

Well, the thing is, when I read the word "Community" I think of the whole group of GNU Guix users, contributors, and enthusiasts (including people who use Guix with non-free software or who promote channels with non-free packages). So I don't like the word "community" because it would not include the whole Guix community (the group of people who use/promote non-free stuff would be excluded from the list).

Hi,

Just to let you know that I sent a patch that adds a new "Publications" page to the website (https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48637),which lists external written publications about Guix. It includes the written resources from Julien's community page.

In a different patch, I'll submit some changes to the videos part of the website and include videos from Julien's community page.

After that, I plan to submit another patch addressing zimoun's proposal about channels (a Channels page).

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Luis Felipe López Acevedo

That's great news! Thanks for working on that!

Le 25 mai 2021 10:55:59 GMT-04:00, Luis Felipe <luis.felipe.la@protonmail.com> a écrit :

Hello again,

On Tuesday, May 25th, 2021 at 2:55 PM, Luis Felipe <luis.felipe.la@protonmail.com> wrote:

Just to let you know that I submitted the videos patch: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/49310.

Closing since we now have equivalent pages :)