evolution and bogofilter

Hello, I'm trying to get spam filtering working in evolution. According

to evolution docs, evolution is supposed to use either bogofilter or

spam assassin. I am focusing on bogofilter since guix has a bogofilter

package. I have set all settings in evolution according to the

evolution docs from the help menu, but cannot get confirmation either

than spam filtering is actually working, or that evolution is in fact

interacting with bogofilter to build a words database. As part of that,

I'm trying to confirm if guix has correct options for that built into

evolution, to properly interact with bogofilter binary.

On the one hand:

- I see in source code of evolution guix pacakage that there is a

bogofilter module

- I see in built guix package that there is a .so library for

bogofilter

- I see, through gsettings, that there is a schema for evolution-

bogofilter

"""

gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.bogofilter command

''

"""

On the other hand:

- I selected all enable junk mail processing options in the preferences

menu and on the account level menu

- I can mark items and junk mail or not junk mail, but there is no feed

back as to whether a filter is doing anything

- I tried marking a bunch of items as junk mail and not junk mail, to

train bogofilter

- It does not appear that anything is automatically being marked as

junk

- if I just run bogofilter command at a shell, I get message

"""

Can't open file 'wordlist.db' in directory

'/home/christopher/.bogofilter'.

error #2 - No such file or directory.

Remember to register some spam and ham messages before you

use bogofilter to evaluate mail for its probable spam status!

"""

As though no database has been created yet.

Thinking maybe some bogofilter path or option not set during package

build. Tried to confirm this viewing build log from guix-build, but

since I have already built the package once from source, I cannot

figure out how to get guix-build to let me build it again.

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Quick update: I tried settings the path myself in gnome schema to point

to the bogofilter binary in my profile. After restarting evolution, I

see now there is a words database in my home directory.

So, this may be the solution for me. However, it still leaves open the

question of whether guix evolution pacakge should be providing paths

for bogofilter or spamassassin at compile time, either by default or as

an option. It seems that if you do nothing, by default users of

evolution have no spam filtering, although it looks like they do.

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Enterprise Solutions Manager

Alaska Satellite Internet

PO Box 70, Ester, AK 99725

3239 La Ree Way, Fairbanks, AK 99709

907.451.0088

1.888.396.5623

www.alaskasatelliteinternet.com

Hi Christopher,

I'm afraid I don't have any useful feedback regarding Evolution, but ...

Christopher Howard <christopher@alaskasi.com> writes:

You can use 'guix build --no-grafts --log-file evolution' to get the

build log; or 'guix build --no-grafts --check evolution' to force a

rebuild (and check for bit-reproducibility at the same time).

HTH,

Marius

Hi:

build log was too big to paste, but here are the configure options that

showed up in it:

"""

-- Configure options:

-- LIB_SUFFIX ...............

-- CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX .....

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4

-- BIN_INSTALL_DIR ..........

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/bin

-- INCLUDE_INSTALL_DIR ......

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/include

-- LIB_INSTALL_DIR ..........

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/lib

-- LIBEXEC_INSTALL_DIR ......

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/libexec

-- SHARE_INSTALL_PREFIX .....

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/share

-- LOCALE_INSTALL_DIR .......

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-

3.32.4/share/locale

-- SYSCONF_INSTALL_DIR ......

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/etc

-- MAN_INSTALL_DIR ..........

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/share/man

-- ENABLE_CODE_COVERAGE ..... OFF

-- ENABLE_SCHEMAS_COMPILE ... ON

-- ENABLE_GTK_DOC ........... OFF

-- ENABLE_INSTALLED_TESTS ... OFF

-- WITH_OPENLDAP ............ /usr

-- WITH_SUNLDAP ............. OFF

-- WITH_STATIC_LDAP ......... OFF

-- ENABLE_SMIME ............. ON

-- WITH_NSPR_INCLUDES .......

-- WITH_NSPR_LIBS ...........

-- WITH_NSS_INCLUDES ........

-- WITH_NSS_LIBS ............

-- ENABLE_MAINTAINER_MODE ... OFF

-- VERSION_SUBSTRING ........

-- VERSION_COMMENT ..........

-- ENABLE_GNOME_DESKTOP ..... ON

-- WITH_ENCHANT_VERSION ..... auto (enchant-1)

-- ENABLE_CANBERRA .......... ON

-- ENABLE_AUTOAR ............ ON

-- WITH_HELP ................ ON

-- ENABLE_YTNEF ............. ON

-- WITH_BOGOFILTER .......... ON

-- WITH_SPAMASSASSIN ........ ON

-- WITH_SA_LEARN ............ ON

-- ENABLE_GTKSPELL .......... ON

-- ENABLE_PLUGINS ........... all

-- ENABLE_TEXT_HIGHLIGHT .... ON

-- ENABLE_WEATHER ........... ON

-- ENABLE_CONTACT_MAPS ...... OFF

-- ENABLE_PST_IMPORT ........ OFF

-- WITH_GLADE_CATALOG ....... OFF

"""

Obviously BOGOFILTER and SPAMASSASSIN are enabled, but I'm not seeing

INSTALL_DIR option or similar to set paths to BOGOFILTER and

SPAMASSASSIN. I still don't know if one can be set or not, just that I

don't see it there. I tried to look into that earlier but my lack of

familiarity with cmake got in the way of figuring out the answer. If

such a config option doesn't exist, I think we would need to ask for

it, or patch it in. Otherwise all new Guix gnome users are going to be

wondering why spam filtering is not working in evolution, even though

they installed bogofilter (or spamassassin).

-----Original Message-----

To: Christopher Howard <christopher@alaskasi.com>,

39571@debbugs.gnu.org

Hi Christopher,

I'm afraid I don't have any useful feedback regarding Evolution, but

...

Christopher Howard <christopher@alaskasi.com> writes:

You can use 'guix build --no-grafts --log-file evolution' to get

thebuild log; or 'guix build --no-grafts --check evolution' to force

arebuild (and check for bit-reproducibility at the same time).

HTH,Marius

--

Christopher Howard

Enterprise Solutions Manager

Alaska Satellite Internet

PO Box 70, Ester, AK 99725

3239 La Ree Way, Fairbanks, AK 99709

907.451.0088

1.888.396.5623

www.alaskasatelliteinternet.com

Hi:

build log was too big to paste, but here are the configure options that

showed up in it:

"""

-- Configure options:

-- LIB_SUFFIX ...............

-- CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX .....

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4

-- BIN_INSTALL_DIR ..........

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/bin

-- INCLUDE_INSTALL_DIR ......

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/include

-- LIB_INSTALL_DIR ..........

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/lib

-- LIBEXEC_INSTALL_DIR ......

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/libexec

-- SHARE_INSTALL_PREFIX .....

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/share

-- LOCALE_INSTALL_DIR .......

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-

3.32.4/share/locale

-- SYSCONF_INSTALL_DIR ......

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/etc

-- MAN_INSTALL_DIR ..........

/gnu/store/j9513bw96fc0k5ra1nvlf7rrgqlbsagz-evolution-3.32.4/share/man

-- ENABLE_CODE_COVERAGE ..... OFF

-- ENABLE_SCHEMAS_COMPILE ... ON

-- ENABLE_GTK_DOC ........... OFF

-- ENABLE_INSTALLED_TESTS ... OFF

-- WITH_OPENLDAP ............ /usr

-- WITH_SUNLDAP ............. OFF

-- WITH_STATIC_LDAP ......... OFF

-- ENABLE_SMIME ............. ON

-- WITH_NSPR_INCLUDES .......

-- WITH_NSPR_LIBS ...........

-- WITH_NSS_INCLUDES ........

-- WITH_NSS_LIBS ............

-- ENABLE_MAINTAINER_MODE ... OFF

-- VERSION_SUBSTRING ........

-- VERSION_COMMENT ..........

-- ENABLE_GNOME_DESKTOP ..... ON

-- WITH_ENCHANT_VERSION ..... auto (enchant-1)

-- ENABLE_CANBERRA .......... ON

-- ENABLE_AUTOAR ............ ON

-- WITH_HELP ................ ON

-- ENABLE_YTNEF ............. ON

-- WITH_BOGOFILTER .......... ON

-- WITH_SPAMASSASSIN ........ ON

-- WITH_SA_LEARN ............ ON

-- ENABLE_GTKSPELL .......... ON

-- ENABLE_PLUGINS ........... all

-- ENABLE_TEXT_HIGHLIGHT .... ON

-- ENABLE_WEATHER ........... ON

-- ENABLE_CONTACT_MAPS ...... OFF

-- ENABLE_PST_IMPORT ........ OFF

-- WITH_GLADE_CATALOG ....... OFF

"""

Obviously BOGOFILTER and SPAMASSASSIN are enabled, but I'm not seeing

INSTALL_DIR option or similar to set paths to BOGOFILTER and

SPAMASSASSIN. I still don't know if one can be set or not, just that I

don't see it there. I tried to look into that earlier but my lack of

familiarity with cmake got in the way of figuring out the answer. If

such a config option doesn't exist, I think we would need to ask for

it, or patch it in. Otherwise all new Guix gnome users are going to be

wondering why spam filtering is not working in evolution, even though

they installed bogofilter (or spamassassin).

-----Original Message-----

To: Christopher Howard <christopher@alaskasi.com>,

39571@debbugs.gnu.org

Hi Christopher,

I'm afraid I don't have any useful feedback regarding Evolution, but

...

Christopher Howard <christopher@alaskasi.com> writes:

You can use 'guix build --no-grafts --log-file evolution' to get

thebuild log; or 'guix build --no-grafts --check evolution' to force

arebuild (and check for bit-reproducibility at the same time).

HTH,Marius

--

Christopher Howard

Enterprise Solutions Manager

Alaska Satellite Internet

PO Box 70, Ester, AK 99725

3239 La Ree Way, Fairbanks, AK 99709

907.451.0088

1.888.396.5623

www.alaskasatelliteinternet.com

Hi,

Sorry for not being very responsive. It is about this old bug#39571

report [1].

1: http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/39571

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 12:10, Christopher Howard <christopher@alaskasi.com> wrote:

What is the status? Is it fixed for you? If no, could you do an update

on this bug? :-)

Cheers,

simon

Hi,

For the record, the message I received back. Therefore, I will close

if no objection.

Cheers,

simon

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zimoun ???

Let's try this one first.

Christopher, assuming you have a clue what this is about: are you

still affected by https://issues.guix.gnu.org/39571?

Kind regards,

T G-R

Hello, I switched to the Mutt email-client about about 1 year ago. If you wish to close this old bug I will not be affected.

Christopher Howard

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 07:09:59PM +0200, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote:

Hi Christopher,

Thanks for the swift response!

Christopher Howard ???

Will do.

Why let zimoun have all the fun,

T G-R