From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 04 07:52:05 2023 Received: (at 62584) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2023 11:52:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46705 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pjfCn-0000Pz-50 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 07:52:05 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f42.google.com ([209.85.128.42]:41865) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pjfCl-0000OL-0O for 62584@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 07:52:03 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f42.google.com with SMTP id r19-20020a05600c459300b003eb3e2a5e7bso19878858wmo.0 for <62584@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 04:52:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1680609117; x=1683201117; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:references :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Iru2BuT4woPMfaerHQSCpA/4z8EglC5bWBlHiuGiDM8=; b=FeKn318MKWcxLMWLrIwp0dWJ3N0TVbLyXlwefmNKxsGsA5UANQZTHCGEtnQn9gdxYm mDYcWBg4vMqiR1QR3GFSLRg4xy2WyuJnQFcubTrcQ1O3eDnhb5FSWk4DXgcbVX0eUocB 6jlo+DLGycxHoqxrE92esyD+Nf2vEycXgARcgW+IiXQS5NAY4ZY7Sse9guI57JnKbvPe Wo4fR7HgHgHVhCcd7SHzqUTlDtu1RBb4NUwPPAfz0lPOAoguINSKqgOYxiuKcfn46Z6n SyremLl8fdydDy7jzyQTVc0I1VyX2nkXOaJ5jc0QBS9ZNWXFyYypVWz+jx4I1Fe8pSC7 spWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680609117; x=1683201117; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:references :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Iru2BuT4woPMfaerHQSCpA/4z8EglC5bWBlHiuGiDM8=; b=usl1WgPM4TMxLlZ0NJV5/ed/AAMcfK7PiLsAIka/nIX2akFjBYHpfzq+UHb6QTb7d+ T5tiXEavTqA3yxOliNJ3KGNHH20P0jLzj/OwybcMf9+msTPpIlK8chFEPOkvZL+SU4p5 LTNhh9uKMef9PgKkpPr9xmZKoMhWNC8lDVROeGcLbZuPspa51me0D7T57nEXVvrOV9Cm 2XO1Yjdgw9mVBmsOAG/L6Y7SrshGZ+8yGHbzrKJNxhcVjUpmnVA2LaNlBblts6ODZTrC MMQmqg4ivEXcqsGodSGUCBpSFCV3RA+l1GzCUO8VkGQ+40qwTzK6RCXPqILUdLVjkGLm eGoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9ctFQb1b6Z0yxUrgC6fz1/8jYCzcJVXXJGHHmPPG7PWw2fYL3UW xwsT0yJOPI5nVH5NtnGqEvwnseuC+Vg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350aHM9KKME5rsQ4z5ZL68iDBbF8HeqQgO5Rk6XoVGwg6QSaxPABncRU5YkAHquDa+p2ykv+veA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:5106:b0:3f0:330b:d3d4 with SMTP id o6-20020a05600c510600b003f0330bd3d4mr2120518wms.4.1680609117438; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 04:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lili ([2a01:e0a:59b:9120:65d2:2476:f637:db1e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c2-20020adfe702000000b002d6f285c0a2sm12191302wrm.42.2023.04.04.04.51.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 04 Apr 2023 04:51:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Tournier To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , =?utf-8?B?5a6L5paH?= =?utf-8?B?5q2m?= Subject: Re: [bug#62584] [PATCH] services: Add error/success service type. In-Reply-To: <878rfav28x.fsf_-_@gnu.org> References: <20230401072842.13315-1-ludo@gnu.org> <87y1nbevqp.fsf@envs.net> <87jzyvfst1.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <878rfav28x.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2023 12:59:40 +0200 Message-ID: <86jzyrvroj.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62584 Cc: 62584@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ludo, On Sun, 02 Apr 2023 at 15:32, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s skribis: > >> BTW, I wrote about the rationale in more detail in a blog post: >> >> https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2023/reinstating-an-iconic-error-message/ > > In hindsight, seen from April 2nd, it seems that the status quo might be > preferable after all. > > Closing! Well, I am not sure to understand if it is an April=E2=80=99s fool (so a go= od one! ;-)) or a serious patch. In both cases, I am missing why it would not be possible to have the default =E2=80=9Cerror =3D success=E2=80=9C, since it is potentially possib= le to turn it off and so have something as no error =3D> success. Emacs has ton of historical weird defaults. Basically, I do not see the issue with such defaults if there is an explanation (in the manual, say). Cheers, simon