On 2022-10-19 18:21, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew, does the bug report below ring a bell? > Yes, I don't remember if I created a thread on that (probably not) or just discussed it in some chat, but when shepherd stops it doesn't clean up its socket file, so you can't start shepherd again until manually remove socket. Checked it right now: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- herd stop root shepherd # fails with Address already in use --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I found it out, when was experimenting with the place, where I start shepherd https://issues.guix.gnu.org/57692. To inherit graphical environment variables I start it by sway compositor, not login shell and if in addition to sway session I login on another tty, elogind won't remove XDG_RUNTIME_DIR => shepherd/socket is not removed => shepherd fails to start after sway restart. > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/57844 > > (I haven’t hit that problem myself.) > > Ludo’. > > Tom Willemse skribis: > >> Hi Guix! >> >> I've been using Guix on Archlinux for a little while now, and ever since >> I've started using Guix Home on my laptop to start up user-level >> services I've been having the issue that about 50% of the time when I >> boot my laptop shepherd fails to start. >> >> My .xsession-errors says: >> >>> shepherd: while opening socket '/run/user/1000/shepherd/socket': bind: >>> Address already in use >> >> and looking at my shepherd log: >> >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:18 Service root has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:18 Service root has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:19 Starting services... >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:19 Starting services... >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:19 Exiting shepherd... >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:19 Service dunst has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:19 Service unclutter has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:19 Service syncthing has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:19 Service polybar has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:19 Service cmst has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:19 Service kdeconnect has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service xbindkeys has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service picom has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service xmodmap has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service redshift has been started. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Exiting shepherd... >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service syncthing has been stopped. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service xbindkeys has been stopped. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service redshift has been stopped. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service cmst has been stopped. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service kdeconnect has been stopped. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service polybar has been stopped. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service dunst has been stopped. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service picom has been stopped. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Service unclutter has been stopped. >>> 2022-09-15 11:47:20 Exiting. >> >> It looks like it starts twice and then exits both, but I'm not sure why. >> I'm guessing it's the ~/.guix-home/activate and >> ~/.guix-home/on-first-login that are trying to start it. ~/.guix-home/activate should be launched only by guix home reconfigure, so it shouldn't be touched during startup of the session at all, also they both have a condition, which must prevent the start of shepherd if socket exists. https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/home/services/shepherd.scm?h=883fb8f41b08a8455f16c736a83fb1ae8a3df0a1#n105 https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/home/services/shepherd.scm?h=883fb8f41b08a8455f16c736a83fb1ae8a3df0a1#n131 Tom, can you show your startup scripts, please (like xsession or whatever you use for starting graphical environment)? Sharing home environment config can be useful as well. Do you use some display/login manager? >> >> I'm not sure what other information I can provide you that will help, so >> please let me know! >> -- Best regards, Andrew Tropin