From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 15 15:35:30 2022 Received: (at 55998) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2022 19:35:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39863 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o1YnZ-0007a3-Oz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:35:30 -0400 Received: from baptiste.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.51]:50654) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o1YnR-0007Zk-GC for 55998@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:35:24 -0400 Received: from ptr-bvsjgyhxw7psv60dyze.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be ([IPv6:2a02:1811:8c09:9d00:3c5f:2eff:feb0:ba5a]) by baptiste.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id jXbK2700U4UW6Th01XbKC6; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 21:35:20 +0200 Message-ID: <401cbe02c58323fd1a52de199e3312b04ca411f0.camel@telenet.be> Subject: Re: [bug#55998] [PATCH] gnu: Add cctools. From: Maxime Devos To: Philip McGrath , 55998@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 21:35:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <25870e3b599bef45e57c972d019cbee3228e9e35.1655311589.git.philip@philipmcgrath.com> <615afa0c32b6815e175915f9b15c174ab6a81f6a.camel@telenet.be> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-3Z+LcKI/L7hV5FQtAB7G" User-Agent: Evolution 3.38.3-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r22; t=1655321720; bh=7FXuQlubN+EYPbdMrrfOogQr8BSqIGesR7OjYM8vxKE=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=l0nlr+6GFluBR8EhQjq0sAv5OhPIFEWIrWXh7K5D8OZUR07vbi7IzW2o8ZN+hIJU4 N7cdH2nG2WbkvLul+uoIe6QzMBKMu12N3ifAaHjorKiCWwEx7MpnFKahbG0Mn/tg9W 847M6WPgChi9k/Eyb3+rWRhslYL+rYJSXC+DuOD5ECd+4YJafQAqg33W7NORsYYpDA kkRBoGtixch0D99i1wHUSWg3fot445l2i986KvE2E/PnaqGozo/kOwXpedSgrE3qZK qcaYbige7O5AnlPROeU1U7iSiiUB3Q/fpIwI7EyODlEq7dl1rDg9MNrsJq+zP4n9U9 SgwAGzIElHRVg== X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55998 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-3Z+LcKI/L7hV5FQtAB7G Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Philip McGrath schreef op wo 15-06-2022 om 15:06 [-0400]: > I agree that the choice-of-law language is less than friendly to users. >=20 > The FSF has issued an opinion [1] that the APSL 2.0 is a free software= =20 > license: they say that "Apple's lawyers worked with the FSF to produce a= =20 > license that would qualify" (after problems with earlier versions of the= =20 > license) I am not contesting that FSF considers APSL 2.0 to be a free software license. In fact, I looked at that web page to look at why FSF considers it to be a free software license. But I didn't find any answer about the =E2=80=98dispute resolution=E2=80=99 clause. So it seems = to me that FSF overlooked that particular issue, considered it acceptable because of the US being based in the US, or considered it acceptable due to some other (unknown) reason. In case of the FSF overlooking things: mistakes can and should be corrected (this is a free software distro!). In case of US-centrism: err, no. In case of an unknwon reason: reason is unknown. The point is being free, not being stamped as free by the FSF. > IIUC, (guix licenses) only defines FSDG-compatible licenses. Apparently, it doesn't, given the presence of the APSL 2.0, though that's a bug. > Certainly there are broader community governance questions > implicated, but I don't think this patch needs to resolve them. I did not ask anything about community governance? Greetings, Maxime. --=-3Z+LcKI/L7hV5FQtAB7G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iI0EABYKADUWIQTB8z7iDFKP233XAR9J4+4iGRcl7gUCYqo0cxccbWF4aW1lZGV2 b3NAdGVsZW5ldC5iZQAKCRBJ4+4iGRcl7vCtAP92YHzsNXVt3ODrrbc79Oc9KNVf GCmxHqrrfzFEbx/NcwEAwoFPiGND5gdA+kcvEUNKws0NE6LiT41ZU5kV91nuhQ8= =1FTr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-3Z+LcKI/L7hV5FQtAB7G--