From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 02 09:52:16 2021 Received: (at 50960) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2021 13:52:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58381 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWfR2-000347-FB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 09:52:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36904) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWfR1-00033v-Ls for 50960@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 09:52:15 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53306) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWfQw-0000cW-1J; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 09:52:10 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=36470 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWfQv-0008S2-Nv; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 09:52:09 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Jelle Licht Subject: Re: bug#50960: [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' References: <20211002102116.27726-1-ludo@gnu.org> <86mtnrpuoa.fsf@fsfe.org> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2021 15:52:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86mtnrpuoa.fsf@fsfe.org> (Jelle Licht's message of "Sat, 02 Oct 2021 12:50:29 +0200") Message-ID: <87bl47zg8n.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50960 Cc: 50960@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi! Jelle Licht skribis: > At the risk of doing exactly not that; since it will(/might) already > provide some automagic conveniences, perhaps it makes sense to > additionally load a guix-channels.scm. > > I understand that there would be some duplication of functionality > w.r.t. =E2=80=98guix time-machine -C guix-channels.scm -- shell ...=E2=80= =99, but if we > already go the DWIW-route, why not go all the way? I think this should > only apply when running =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 without arguments, i= f that was > unclear. Oh, it=E2=80=99s tempting yeah, but=E2=80=A6 (1) only =E2=80=98time-machin= e=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98pull=E2=80=99 deal with channels currently, so it=E2=80=99d feel kind of weird to take care of= that here, and (2) pulling a specific channel is resource-intensive as you know, much more than anything else, so I=E2=80=99d rather not have that hap= pen automatically. But yeah, I agree that it could be useful. Maybe a first step we could make is have =E2=80=98time-machine=E2=80=99 load =E2=80=98channels.scm=E2= =80=99, such that those who want it can type: guix time-machine -- shell ? Ludo=E2=80=99.