From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 22 09:25:03 2021 Received: (at 47943) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2021 13:25:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33174 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZZKJ-0006h2-2Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 09:25:03 -0400 Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([46.4.214.66]:58804) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZZKF-0006gY-S3 for 47943@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 09:25:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (ip6-localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215DE3021B8; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 13:24:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ns13.heimat.it Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns13.heimat.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1Yso6UjxNick; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 13:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bourrache.mug.xelera.it (unknown [93.56.171.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B9B53021B7; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 13:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roquette.mug.biscuolo.net (roquette [10.38.2.14]) by bourrache.mug.xelera.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 35A61E293AA; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:24:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (nullmailer pid 5438 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 22 Apr 2021 13:24:48 -0000 From: Giovanni Biscuolo To: Guillaume Le Vaillant Subject: Re: [bug#47943] [PATCH]: Gnu: Add Weir In-Reply-To: <87czumjz72.fsf@yamatai> Organization: Xelera.eu References: <87im4eg1ag.fsf@biscuolo.net> <87tunyofo0.fsf@yamatai> <87fszifzcw.fsf@biscuolo.net> <87im4ek0iu.fsf@yamatai> <87czumjz72.fsf@yamatai> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:24:47 +0200 Message-ID: <875z0efo4g.fsf@biscuolo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47943 Cc: 47943@debbugs.gnu.org, Sharlatan Hellseher X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guillaume and Sharlatan, Guillaume Le Vaillant writes: [...] > Concerning point 1, there's a modified version of the code from > "On Lisp" at . > The file "on-lisp.asd" contains an extra indication by Paul Graham about > the license: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Original code: > This code is copyright 1993 by Paul Graham, but anyone who wants > to use the code in any nonprofit activity, or distribute free > verbatim copies (including this notice), is encouraged to do so. > > Modified code: > As long as you tell people it's modified and link to > the original, that's fine. --pg > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Unfortunately AFAIU the "Modified code" license addition (where does it comes from?) still does not qualify the license as free. "On Lisp" official page is here: http://www.paulgraham.com/onlisptext.html, book and code (mechanically extracted from the TeX source files of _On Lisp_) is copyright by Paul Graham. AFAIU today both the code and the book are freeware but not free. The original code (officially linked in the book web page) is here: https://sep.yimg.com/ty/cdn/paulgraham/onlisp.lisp?t=3D1595850613& A good chance to ask Paul Graham (and Dalek Baldwin... or Kyle Littler?) to release the code as free software? :-D Thanks! Giovanni. P.S.: I'm not familiar with Common Lisp but is it possible that the functions from "On Lisp" has been somehow replaced or incorporated in a proper library? ...I'm going to ask on guix-devel. This alone will not fix the problem with "point 3." of the Weir license, but would be a start. =2D-=20 Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJABAEBCgAqFiEERcxjuFJYydVfNLI5030Op87MORIFAmCBeR8MHGdAeGVsZXJh LmV1AAoJENN9DqfOzDkS55kQAL3vo6NnePclFHn/k5BS3cuAAKNwSRJoQrEa4gI/ l9FQfB3SGKbMRUm/SO1BQ5pRHG/uWzI1gvzcRXjcZrsHDHRotitgFSkdIMavTRvh E4E61NDlxtq9wSNuTGFkSy9O6F4+Tgs8bW5sjeDDPUPZy1taBv814qw8MH3kYaOs BDwXl2r9TPCDRSuJ5lqmvByMi57bMoI1qPM4VkG1UK8GFA1L/sGNh99uMUK3FbwQ +vuu1nnEGeKV3xCSMmBZG0UV0dzExoIaUo87Y669pwAxYzvspHJfAoIjsatkh0ov TsK4aHBaqrkK6rf9Oio6A+NZMeNbJLZswXre/PAS1si8A/n72LmkNJKcB1xF/maB pzqg8M0WFFa0rlwxfoG4yHupeWHiYMc+f+GOIGA7vcgtt0bvtlok1VrHQLzMlojw jji6/E8fUzJ6vtDHGTEyUi0XC9wuWBX2H7wRW2vCpQMPi3pJ/ZG7K46TRVf5V1Wd Rz0G2hQ5q9lpHh0Dyl6OMBU3xz8lg8BiwR57RDkHigZMgGmcEkSrC4aL6uEDrT3o 8/dQ1KJ2dacm3Q6vvVsfsitZnB3Mj7MJ3q3lCnAZA12+KxIbEKL+u8K4/alDKznE jWd6mAmJKdF6Df2mu8xIH660mptpi+QUjKzqtn+bsmGxrr9oSyYyMmmhbuB/q1fF hUI9 =M96G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--