From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 28 17:33:03 2022 Received: (at 46848) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2022 22:33:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34937 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nOoZj-0007jB-Ek for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:33:03 -0500 Received: from mail-qk1-f181.google.com ([209.85.222.181]:44932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nOoZi-0007ih-En for 46848@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:33:02 -0500 Received: by mail-qk1-f181.google.com with SMTP id q4so11559702qki.11 for <46848@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:33:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=GG/Borwkd5kRIIfjeYsGuF9q5EuBgjTAtIize6ztPkM=; b=qoVQ+CUbH/xbVr+P1eMswc5H4/PPvLlBG7YPayzK6xIpKfXb4JxC4jroKxI5sHtthg oBBXqlfom4DpW4Nj/C0bjHhF1J+BFKrMaIs1JimrOSrdZaT+xpkZw/1WW2PbnrCXVUbP rRDQPSGdVbyEQWRCoQm9WTM8qQypBG52K/YOZS7j2MB5fF/xmVvIaZMvUcrDNfKaShcd FH9fSrdvkodI1IUIA5pjO3pkWsFROCRgowFwDEQeQ3MPyR0fzQDpTOzL6fULothnzy5e 7CN/0F1zV1HVtWpfGtmG4oyb5Wk6CQR+Gcko4dbAGLuT7RNEFO2iR2oxtJoXCprjO3qz 5Ajg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=GG/Borwkd5kRIIfjeYsGuF9q5EuBgjTAtIize6ztPkM=; b=Bwm2Gb4wDA03V2C+DP1LM05fhERYlXTaqXge2y06rjn/pLDNuA8+Q8BJf19WgiaAyS BcR9RKJjREeAmImnRKD5f7dLngNwkz2O0QJ3xWHRQcvgNKjOYp9SHljKFprDG98oIMUg /UtLABXotnMOBaI+nEO66OXhk7NiJ8EjRUhRwHHD5frcloC3+dvtu1WfYncxedCKHpv2 BNNIVtyKgaIB8pme6+K2SeQQl5gB4ecJ0y6Aivae91QZoudztiJvaE5AHZAeWNt3eG8U UFYWJg1QxE76DupsZlMqJ8f6ltlPPA4beY9AbGiLhCzrS5ubmhBuPZLQi3jLYCDo6koi fyMg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530hGM9dew8+SeQEmGGl9hNvkmC8hq4Pwa7aNkHf2fFfLpzzVfht kioA9fBvSFH4DCcyy7IAKlHDJ1790eQR5A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwMpwgLPI1CAFhQIR0M2WlVhFoKwCJrMhhDLZ+1ULvf1aYPVC85lA7EcE4FTixrAHJfFyxtcg== X-Received: by 2002:a37:b885:0:b0:606:f607:d820 with SMTP id i127-20020a37b885000000b00606f607d820mr12157614qkf.124.1646087575707; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hurd (dsl-141-227.b2b2c.ca. [66.158.141.227]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w3-20020ac857c3000000b002de99dba1c3sm7356083qta.90.2022.02.28.14.32.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:32:55 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Lars-Dominik Braun Subject: Re: [bug#46848] [PATCHES] [core-updates] PEP 517 python-build-system References: <877daubeju.fsf@gnu.org> <87h78lwwfc.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:32:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Lars-Dominik Braun's message of "Mon, 28 Feb 2022 20:25:35 +0100") Message-ID: <878rtusju1.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46848 Cc: 46848@debbugs.gnu.org, Marius Bakke X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Lars, Lars-Dominik Braun writes: > Hi Maxim, > >> When you judge the branch ready to merge, could you please send a subset >> of the patches (at least the ones touching the python-build-system >> directly) to this issue (marked as v2 -- git send-email -v2) so that >> they can be more easily commented? > > as soon as time permits I can do that. Which route do we want to > take? Replace python-build-system entirely in one big merge or add a > new one and slowly migrate? After the Berlin can be rebooted onto its new file system, I expect it should allow us to keep the build farm much busier than in the past give us the headroom to experiment with a PEP 517-focused world rebuilding branch. I'd aim to have the build system completely replaced; unless your experience suggests it's going to take multiple weeks to fix iron out the kinks? Thanks, Maxim