From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 14 05:38:47 2020 Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2020 10:38:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kolFe-0007iO-Of for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:38:46 -0500 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:52234) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kolFd-0007iC-Al for 41669@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:38:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [5.102.238.249]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6388C403BF; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:38:36 +0200 From: Efraim Flashner To: Leo Le Bouter Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible Message-ID: References: <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@gmail.com> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@gmail.com> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@gnu.org> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <874kkoyebq.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ohp5GPH0RV1wQK3u" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669@debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Chris Marusich , Maxim Cournoyer , Vincent Legoll X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --ohp5GPH0RV1wQK3u Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:34:35AM +0100, Leo Le Bouter wrote: > On Mon, 2020-12-14 at 12:27 +0200, Efraim Flashner wrote: >=20 > > but I wouldn't count on > > maintaining a separate glibc for powerpc64le vs the rest of the > > architectures. >=20 > It doesnt need to be maintained, it only needs to work in one commit on > master and then one uses time-machine to rebuild the bootstrap binaries > if they wish to. The make-bootstrap code is already unmaintained for > every architecture anyway since we never rebuild bootstrap binaries > using later GNU Guix revisions ever. It looks like I mispoke, I meant gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm. If we change glibc-for-bootstrap to inherit glibc-2.31 then the rest of the bootstrap binaries should use that one and everything else will use the regular glibc. >=20 > > Do you have a preference big-endian vs little endian? >=20 > I'd like both but little endian has the widest eco-system support > especially w.r.t. to Linux drivers. Many Linux drivers have endianness > bugs (lack of endian-safe serialization for DMA..), it's such a plague > that sticking to little endian is just better right now. One common > example being mpt3sas and amdgpu drivers required in some > configurations of the Talos II system. >=20 I remember you mentioning that. --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --ohp5GPH0RV1wQK3u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl/XQKoACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1Gv/Q//fQK+B4hrAZgwOvlWIm6/EUVPZj7LJKTvZIaHXCYJDDZgdEA93Dh5kUvY esua7YJphlUp+PJ4/LbzdmviHcycgHZS25ZtVJfo0g6ghbdhKQPioEGshQQ9Q1jO UAmWvHGw/j+ck3M0W+uUCBlzxtV3QNW6EzXJ75e3gU5HSaZ7qCy5PK392N0ZQsh2 zDhmdJ/r7aWn6WXGVvMlKjub8JFypgHm6yqmT2evHceXXnSjNAI2HDiiVyK8U6Ia umwjGjNPSGX00+YxJl1S8Fm0YxUORGglhO1rFUH+mYze7LeJ3UBTbDMNeCs5IsQ/ /uGgy777kfJRHFUkx9JzDVyboSLd+2COoT894gAjYJBP1uOCQVwkL7Rfo+QapHlZ l16r/ze/CrgbZ2O9TqIDv5COgC5Wvc72OOC4s2sbmdGyUYpT7ltGouHmXpl6+0Ck DjotXNTACXPhgKzK2/A+Hlu4tben1XXXquctmm9/ek0ouTgKe/5A1/877nE/l1yL 94tVf5149Bf52Gyo2n0znBsjMA72HOZBCAEi8ubSj0B1MzmSrWz7FZEgVtAOKdYy b/lGQUNKYtMbcvyJJA46ShRWAPYistZ8Ud1+UejIFGLHkNz79SpsK60MbIh1D10i BrXo9SZa8xVdNy6tRjoJvp5OI1HbV1sIkCLSlLKjFOcp9IlnzDs= =RfOP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ohp5GPH0RV1wQK3u--