From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 02 13:45:10 2020 Received: (at 41661) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2020 17:45:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40853 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jgAyM-0003Pj-3g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2020 13:45:10 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:47041) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jgAyJ-0003PQ-PF for 41661@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2020 13:45:08 -0400 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C885C00EE; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 13:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 02 Jun 2020 13:45:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=TYPq+o5xvPfNo1nG/Ei5zus7 hBMro62w4zrdJuuJVpY=; b=jsxNti0kXWX6MOLVo2ulA8juB8fqih7aZd2FTI2G 8tKiehqXTMawY8U7DWD2t+QvCYupQeJ9KDSlZVWFPUC48tTkUgv3quEvVfXBFcj+ UocyrtBx/PV+ODTs6EAd011sV/nOUaF5z1QdRFJotn8MB4N8lKqDt5XSEKTHdZ4d t88= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=TYPq+o 5xvPfNo1nG/Ei5zus7hBMro62w4zrdJuuJVpY=; b=eFEXPC+nwIrxsFFqNRDu+i MRV2IoYeR911MzVeLmG4kdurdreiur8yMTZ4NAaqxJBueadBsHpQWSaXF4ZiA2zk QI3cOSpkqySjfn4tFnEo5bMKf+Pg8b+P4xMC+ZNLP+e69r7bFfUC/kC/0AEeD60B kIUUKBvt2YbLdmYSsCFafgQxw2agjk0TorTwDC2SJATIQP5h1UWhJ1I0aTajweZW 9DikLO7aBgREnt7oQRUwuNNlexnu6whPRd96SFR+/pr1sYbST5bswqGhVWP4G6k5 tiU6m58TNzQikSMKF8NVFH96h4EK4PNd6RprJ0UdPnxhbCe0y54dbS4c6st2ebNQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrudefjedgkeekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehgtderredttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefnvghoucfh rghmuhhlrghrihcuoehlvghosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgvqeenucggtffrrghtth gvrhhnpedvveegkeduiedvieeludevkeeugfeuueelhedtffegffdtfeekveelffeufedu keenucffohhmrghinhepghhnuhdrohhrghenucfkphepjeeirdduvdegrddufeekrdeife enucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehlvgho sehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgv X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost (c-76-124-138-63.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.124.138.63]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6154A3280065; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 13:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 13:44:59 -0400 From: Leo Famulari To: Brice Waegeneire Subject: Re: bug#41661: [Cuirass] Doesn't honor 'timeout' nor 'max-silent-time' leading to mising substitutes Message-ID: <20200602174459.GC19317@jasmine.lan> References: <095b8c544efa2b37c1ff385a9fca0760@waegenei.re> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <095b8c544efa2b37c1ff385a9fca0760@waegenei.re> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41661 Cc: 41661@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 01:15:19PM +0000, Brice Waegeneire wrote: > Hello Guix, >=20 > Unlike Hydra, Curiass don't honor 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' > properties[0]. This lead to some packages never having substitutes, in > particular for the 'armhf-linux' system for example 'linux-libre' or > 'guile-static-stripped'[1]. Which mean it's really difficult to use such > systems since each users need to build thoses really long running[2] > packages. We also don't know if thoses package may fail for a reason other > than timing out. >=20 > [0]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2020-03/msg00209.html > [1]: http://ci.guix.gnu.org/search?query=3Dguile-static-stripped%20system= :armhf-linux > [2]: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/guile.s= cm?id=3Df51fd97ec54a98668d63c52d8a6bd75d8dc3292e#n257 >=20 > - Brice We really need to improve our CI so that it's possible to discover these build failures. Currently it's quite hard to monitor if they get built unless you just do `guix build foo`. The last time this came up [0] it was said that maybe it's not really correct to make these properties of the package, but rather of the CI jobs. It makes sense but we need a solution, or stop supporting underpowered architectures like armhf, because most of those machines can't build this stuff themselves, and it's not good to advertise support to people who will just be disappointed later. --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEsFFZSPHn08G5gDigJkb6MLrKfwgFAl7WkBgACgkQJkb6MLrK fwj1Ng/9FyZmUNB+++ec5Nz0zCHjSg05Tt7tMyu3+p0QAhAq9AeHKQ06ZVFh14Fi OUhU/bBFd2RiPuyLaWi6wXcZSVaOTvJKG4LGbiXyqp/nknO+aB0pMNxsPLh0vFZa rtTNnZ72gKUN2WhAL2QLr9Ee4GCMKYD4enKBSXVCCpQvM8VfnETsdyC3SKfTCwiZ SoNuiWk3CQTCgJITaQRwxmag0Fi2ALo3xcXpPkVif2lpCPD+fqz2mt1IoESf4DvF BTqtUWIUXhqQTLj9VJcMBlT/Un0bD4N1Pbub6YWxNzQyRA3CQIaRfY9FrXUm4bRg l1JjS/8XXhpbEfXBUI8LMkGmCJn5nJbaqPQkxXDAr3K24r3hRwl4l+4M7RHWAi04 +XSEwYSqA8WlVaDbLn87IMmQi84tBfwX7H59NA2FCxLHQnNVsojZVxjGw7aC18nt +ilQ2weUfq0uaTLBbD4pwmDKZt1t64qGQMphAxDlParYENFrd4ViZnelUvR30dh8 fHzu0D08+o5Kj32AszTR0wMJsh2U3HXGL8LXSjSgNNNniKNmXohNU5S3Dz9uyPPG OgTvIdrEKqN8XZQaub3nTg9OiO0hfX6qZfjAjJQBrBMr8BrJbEZees2evUMSG/wW i7Zlq2u0URvoSsQzngpA1FYspXLQdsWRMX9flxT3RTCInjdRQrw= =YA4p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7--