From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 12 07:23:31 2019 Received: (at 35234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2019 11:23:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55522 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hEuHL-0004zI-D9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:23:31 -0400 Received: from sender-of-o51.zoho.com ([135.84.80.216]:21251) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hEuHH-0004z7-8T for 35234@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:23:30 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1555068185; cv=none; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; b=eK8qSVy8M76feelZKtL6vffIfZjAQzjqikwkvUNWVoR0BAY0xx+lf5Z/iKRlZsrrAGDOAAxj6M6V1DwHhAJnoGMY3Ty30GrtvL60mfYxysKDi1ZF/cHZCGKExU5rj0zBHfEhRLsLlfVuX0XybUMq3nl6DpK9p0qsNkQaCL8StvU= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; t=1555068185; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To:ARC-Authentication-Results; bh=G8DWWktn5EbRYV4mQEQkqaedf0yjz0nvr0fHcyqxZIQ=; b=cSdkdf6IlwBGnGrZI4L2kFjwek3qP6dMPHBOdxiv08RCe+O4fGK55cY1N0sXT5xWng0nGdpI81trYz63q6DU4pIR3XGpMMYBBNp44bMrNg2aA5fV17V365TjZVtqxNCoXi9kIWUzIkFbm9lvK35hXxYJGZh6v9bu664lA3gEvZw= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zoho.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1555068185; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; l=2029; bh=G8DWWktn5EbRYV4mQEQkqaedf0yjz0nvr0fHcyqxZIQ=; b=LXj2PaWn7iEmPZZm8fRGKT7OytqHx85yNd3HvabQWZ4KBhp2SKHMPrO3VyGpXCFZ RaDndl7pOCyWj0L+vt6EMcETkOpNpoMntcCLPtgu08bLTYalejmQIKI4sXecaCmjniQ 4CLK2xwTkr6VeRlmKe9cJjD2R+Ws1hk1lvwOgKqY= Received: from localhost (141.80.247.154 [141.80.247.154]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1555068183486238.6670268926382; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 04:23:03 -0700 (PDT) References: <20190411181644.21661-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87d0lsib4l.fsf@elephly.net> <878swflfze.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> User-agent: mu4e 1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Ricardo Wurmus To: Pierre Neidhardt Subject: Re: [bug#35234] [PATCH] gnu: Add the-dark-mod. In-reply-to: <878swflfze.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:22:57 +0200 Message-ID: <87o95b31ta.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35234 Cc: 35234@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > >> Hi Pierre, >> >>> * gnu/packages/games.scm (the-dark-mod): New variable. >> [=E2=80=A6] >>> + (synopsis "Game based on the Thief series by Looking Glass Studi= os") >>> + (description (format #f "The Dark Mod (TDM) is stealth/infiltrat= ion game >>> +based on the Thief series by Looking Glass Studios. Formerly a Doom I= II mod, >>> +it is now released as a standalone. >>> + >>> +The game data must be fetched manually by running @command{tdm_update}. >>> +The ~a environment variable specifies the location where the game data= is >>> +saved (defaults to ~a)." >>> + the-dark-mod-env-var-name the-dark-mod-env-= var-value)) >> >> Is this actually free software? Does it depend on the proprietary Thief >> game data to be playable? What is the purpose of tdm_update? > > It is: I added a comment in the license section: all the data fetched by > the "tdm_update" executable is under CC. tdm_update is the in-house > package manager. It's sad the game data is not versioned, but I don't > see a way around it at the moment. I=E2=80=99d prefer not to recommend the use of tdm_update and create a pack= age for the game data instead. Under what URL can the game data be downloaded? Can we use a web.archive.org URL or host the data somewhere? > We have quite a few game engines in our repository that > depend on proprietary game data to be playable. But The Dark Mod is not = one > of them. First: what game engines do we provide that can only be used with proprietary game data? Second: The Dark Mod source repository contains a README with this text: This source release does not contain any game data, the game data is still covered by the original EULA and must be obeyed as usual. https://svn.thedarkmod.com/publicsvn/darkmod_src/trunk/README.txt What is that EULA? Is this README incorrect? Or this misleading as it would only apply to Doom 3? -- Ricardo