guix package --upgrade reverses the order of packages

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  • Ludovic Courtès
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Chris Marusich wrote on 13 Apr 2018 07:57
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Hi,
It seems that running "guix package --upgrade ." reverses the order ofpackages installed in a profile. Apparently as a result, repeatedlyrunning the command on a profile will create multiple generations, eventhough the packages are not actually being upgraded.
Here's a way to reproduce it:
Toggle snippet (61 lines)$ guix package -p test-profile -i guile git:send-email[0] marusich@garuda.local:/tmp$ guix package -p test-profile -i guile git:send-emailguix package: warning: Your Guix installation is 7 days old.guix package: warning: Consider running 'guix pull' followed by'guix package -u' to get up-to-date packages and security updates.
The following packages will be installed: guile 2.2.3 /gnu/store/b90y3swxlx3vw2yyacs8cz59b8cbpbw5-guile-2.2.3 git:send-email 2.17.0 /gnu/store/xv8za72akjqidji3y5fz76n21jnvmqvk-git-2.17.0-send-email
2 packages in profileThe following environment variable definitions may be needed: export PATH="test-profile/bin${PATH:+:}$PATH" export GIT_EXEC_PATH="test-profile/libexec/git-core"[0] marusich@garuda.local:/tmp$ guix package -p test-profile -u .guix package: warning: Your Guix installation is 7 days old.guix package: warning: Consider running 'guix pull' followed by'guix package -u' to get up-to-date packages and security updates.
The following packages will be upgraded: git:send-email 2.17.0 → 2.17.0 /gnu/store/xv8za72akjqidji3y5fz76n21jnvmqvk-git-2.17.0-send-email guile 2.2.3 → 2.2.3 /gnu/store/b90y3swxlx3vw2yyacs8cz59b8cbpbw5-guile-2.2.3
2 packages in profileThe following environment variable definitions may be needed: export PATH="test-profile/bin${PATH:+:}$PATH" export GIT_EXEC_PATH="test-profile/libexec/git-core"[0] marusich@garuda.local:/tmp$ guix package -p test-profile -u .guix package: warning: Your Guix installation is 7 days old.guix package: warning: Consider running 'guix pull' followed by'guix package -u' to get up-to-date packages and security updates.
The following packages will be upgraded: guile 2.2.3 → 2.2.3 /gnu/store/b90y3swxlx3vw2yyacs8cz59b8cbpbw5-guile-2.2.3 git:send-email 2.17.0 → 2.17.0 /gnu/store/xv8za72akjqidji3y5fz76n21jnvmqvk-git-2.17.0-send-email
2 packages in profileThe following environment variable definitions may be needed: export PATH="test-profile/bin${PATH:+:}$PATH" export GIT_EXEC_PATH="test-profile/libexec/git-core"[0] marusich@garuda.local:/tmp$ guix package -p test-profile -u .guix package: warning: Your Guix installation is 7 days old.guix package: warning: Consider running 'guix pull' followed by'guix package -u' to get up-to-date packages and security updates.
The following packages will be upgraded: git:send-email 2.17.0 → 2.17.0 /gnu/store/xv8za72akjqidji3y5fz76n21jnvmqvk-git-2.17.0-send-email guile 2.2.3 → 2.2.3 /gnu/store/b90y3swxlx3vw2yyacs8cz59b8cbpbw5-guile-2.2.3
2 packages in profileThe following environment variable definitions may be needed: export PATH="test-profile/bin${PATH:+:}$PATH" export GIT_EXEC_PATH="test-profile/libexec/git-core"[0] marusich@garuda.local:/tmp$
-- Chris
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Ludovic Courtès wrote on 18 Apr 2018 23:15
(name . Chris Marusich)(address . cmmarusich@gmail.com)(address . 31142@debbugs.gnu.org)
87604otdvi.fsf@gnu.org
Hello,
Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@gmail.com> skribis:
Toggle quote (5 lines)> It seems that running "guix package --upgrade ." reverses the order of> packages installed in a profile. Apparently as a result, repeatedly> running the command on a profile will create multiple generations, even> though the packages are not actually being upgraded.
Commit eca16a3d1d9e6b2c064e0105c1015258bf2755f2 was supposed to fix it…but it lacked a test case… I plaid guilty. :-)
Could you take a closer look at that commit?
Ludo’.
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Ludovic Courtès wrote on 15 Jan 2019 12:07
(name . Chris Marusich)(address . cmmarusich@gmail.com)(address . 31142-done@debbugs.gnu.org)
87muo22n7y.fsf@gnu.org
Hi,
ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis:
Toggle quote (12 lines)> Hello,>> Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@gmail.com> skribis:>>> It seems that running "guix package --upgrade ." reverses the order of>> packages installed in a profile. Apparently as a result, repeatedly>> running the command on a profile will create multiple generations, even>> though the packages are not actually being upgraded.>> Commit eca16a3d1d9e6b2c064e0105c1015258bf2755f2 was supposed to fix it…> but it lacked a test case… I plaid guilty. :-)
This is fixed in 35225dc57996ebc7a5a55462e0e52d85239195d9, which prettymuch reverts eca16a3d1d9e6b2c064e0105c1015258bf2755f2…
But this time there’s a test case that gives me some confidence. :-)
Thanks,Ludo’.
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Pierre Neidhardt wrote on 27 Mar 2019 12:28
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Pierre Neidhardt wrote on 27 Mar 2019 12:33
Re: guix package --upgrade reverses the order of packages
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87wokko8ki.fsf@ambrevar.xyz
Hi!
This issue fixes the list order, but it was initially supposed to addresshttps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-04/msg00070.html.
In the linked conversation, the issue that was raised is that "guixpackage --upgrade" always upgrades some (propagated?) inputs, even whenthere is nothing to upgrade.
I can still reproduce this issue on latest Guix.Anyone else?Shall we open a new bug?
-- Pierre Neidhardthttps://ambrevar.xyz/
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Ludovic Courtès wrote on 28 Mar 2019 13:49
(name . Pierre Neidhardt)(address . mail@ambrevar.xyz)
87ftr7cgfz.fsf@gnu.org
Hello,
Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> skribis:
Toggle quote (11 lines)> This issue fixes the list order, but it was initially supposed to address> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-04/msg00070.html.>> In the linked conversation, the issue that was raised is that "guix> package --upgrade" always upgrades some (propagated?) inputs, even when> there is nothing to upgrade.>> I can still reproduce this issue on latest Guix.> Anyone else?> Shall we open a new bug?
Yes, and I think we’ll close it as “wontfix”. :-)
Ludo’.
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Pierre Neidhardt wrote on 28 Mar 2019 13:56
(name . Ludovic Courtès)(address . ludo@gnu.org)
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Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
Toggle quote (4 lines)>> Shall we open a new bug?>> Yes, and I think we’ll close it as “wontfix”. :-)
Hmm? Why?
-- Pierre Neidhardthttps://ambrevar.xyz/
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Maxim Cournoyer wrote on 28 Mar 2019 14:01
Re: bug#31142: guix package --upgrade reverses the order of packages
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On March 28, 2019 12:49:04 PM UTC, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
Toggle quote (19 lines)>Hello,>>Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> skribis:>>> This issue fixes the list order, but it was initially supposed to>address>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-04/msg00070.html.>>>> In the linked conversation, the issue that was raised is that "guix>> package --upgrade" always upgrades some (propagated?) inputs, even>when>> there is nothing to upgrade.>>>> I can still reproduce this issue on latest Guix.>> Anyone else?>> Shall we open a new bug?>>Yes, and I think we’ll close it as “wontfix”. :-)
May I ask why? It seems it'd be ideal if packages got upgraded only when needed; the false upgrades pollute the output of an upgrade and makes it less useful.
Maxim
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Pierre Neidhardt wrote on 28 Mar 2019 14:13
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Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> writes:
Toggle quote (4 lines)>>Yes, and I think we’ll close it as “wontfix”. :-)>> May I ask why? It seems it'd be ideal if packages got upgraded only when needed; the false upgrades pollute the output of an upgrade and makes it less useful.
It also generates spurious generations.Last but not least, it makes it hard to the user to know when somethingactually needs to be updated.
-- Pierre Neidhardthttps://ambrevar.xyz/
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Ludovic Courtès wrote on 28 Mar 2019 14:30
Re: guix package --upgrade reverses the order of packages
(name . Pierre Neidhardt)(address . mail@ambrevar.xyz)
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Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> skribis:
Toggle quote (8 lines)> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:>>>> Shall we open a new bug?>>>> Yes, and I think we’ll close it as “wontfix”. :-)>> Hmm? Why?
At first sight, to me, it’s not entirely clear how to determine whethersomething is to be upgraded in the presence of propagated inputs.
And more importantly, I think the “imperative” model is necessarily notas expressive and “clean” as ‘--manifest’. There are tradeoffs to make.
In short, if we can fix it, that’s great; but otherwise I wouldn’t losemy hair over it.
I hope that makes sense!
Ludo’.
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Pierre Neidhardt wrote on 28 Mar 2019 14:53
(name . Ludovic Courtès)(address . ludo@gnu.org)
87d0mbnm0f.fsf@ambrevar.xyz
Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
Toggle quote (3 lines)> At first sight, to me, it’s not entirely clear how to determine whether> something is to be upgraded in the presence of propagated inputs.
I think the linked discussion suggested we checked upgradesrecursively. Wouldn't that work?
Toggle quote (3 lines)> And more importantly, I think the “imperative” model is necessarily not> as expressive and “clean” as ‘--manifest’. There are tradeoffs to make.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. How do we upgrade declaratively? Icould be missing something big here! :)
-- Pierre Neidhardthttps://ambrevar.xyz/
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Ludovic Courtès wrote on 28 Mar 2019 15:10
(name . Pierre Neidhardt)(address . mail@ambrevar.xyz)
87a7hfay3k.fsf@gnu.org
Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> skribis:
Toggle quote (8 lines)> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:>>> At first sight, to me, it’s not entirely clear how to determine whether>> something is to be upgraded in the presence of propagated inputs.>> I think the linked discussion suggested we checked upgrades> recursively. Wouldn't that work?
Maybe! Let’s open a new bug. :)
Toggle quote (6 lines)>> And more importantly, I think the “imperative” model is necessarily not>> as expressive and “clean” as ‘--manifest’. There are tradeoffs to make.>> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. How do we upgrade> declaratively?
Just ‘guix pull && guix package --manifest=my-stuff.scm’.
Ludo’.
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