From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 12 17:13:23 2017 Received: (at 29634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2017 22:13:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59028 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOsnj-0006oB-I1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:13:23 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:39042) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOsni-0006nv-23 for 29634@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:13:22 -0500 Received: from pool-72-93-30-197.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.30.197] helo=jojen) by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eOsnc-00075N-5H; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:13:16 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@netris.org> <877ett4n7r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3m8irez.fsf@netris.org> <87po7ks3nf.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:12:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87po7ks3nf.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:08 +0100") Message-ID: <87h8svd28n.fsf@netris.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29634 Cc: 29634@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > Mark H Weaver skribis: > >> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: >> >>> Mark H Weaver skribis: >>> >>>> An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra, >>>> because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored. >>>> For example: >>>> >>>> https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845 >>>> >>>> This is a longstanding issue. In past core-updates cycles, I have >>>> worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations >>>> from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time >>>> manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures. >>>> >>>> It would be good to fix this issue properly. >>>> >>>> My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is >>>> no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'. >>> >>> Exactly. Or maybe there=E2=80=99s one but this early =E2=80=98guile=E2= =80=99 is built as a >>> dependency of another job. >> >> How do you think we should fix this? > > Of course I=E2=80=99d prefer if Guile compile times were shorter. > > Besides, we should probably handle timeouts per-derivation rather than > globally (currently timeout are per-session, see =E2=80=98set-build-optio= ns=E2=80=99). > We could do that by adding a new special value in the environment > variable map of derivation (as is the case for, e.g., > =E2=80=9CexportReferencesGraph=E2=80=9D) that the daemon would honor. It= =E2=80=99s a > rebuild-the-world change though. Sounds good to me. For now, I'll rebuild the early guile for armhf manually. Thanks, Mark