From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 18 13:12:39 2017 Received: (at 28479) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2017 17:12:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46735 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dtzb3-0002Ao-Sq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:12:39 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:45271) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dtzb1-0002Ab-Hp for 28479@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:12:36 -0400 Received: from pool-72-93-28-145.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.28.145] helo=jojen) by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dtzav-0001Ne-H7; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:12:29 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver To: ng0 Subject: Re: bug#28479: icecat-52.3.0-gnu1 includes Google in search engines References: <20170917124038.aheubmpxixzyx6ne@abyayala> <87wp4wk54l.fsf@netris.org> <20170918071100.hm4z3qjmmrkwvxh2@abyayala> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:12:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20170918071100.hm4z3qjmmrkwvxh2@abyayala> (ng0@infotropique.org's message of "Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:11:00 +0000") Message-ID: <87bmm8hqxh.fsf@netris.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28479 Cc: 28479@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) ng0 writes: > Mark H Weaver transcribed 0.4K bytes: >> >> ng0 writes: >> >> > Is this an upstream bug? Should we patch to remove Google? >> > >> > I've just compared a completely new system (and Icecat profile) >> > with my default profile, both include Google in search engines. >> > >> > There's also Bing and Yahoo, I'm not sure if all 3 were present >> > before this version. >> >> Why would it be considered a bug to give users the convenient option to >> use those search engines? >> >> Mark > > For example the branch of firefox which Parabola distributes > makes changes not to default to Google. Among the changes that GNU IceCat makes to Firefox ESR: it makes DuckDuckGo the default search engine. Last I checked, that was indeed the case for our IceCat package. Do you have reason to believe otherwise? > People rarely change defaults, so we should give the option to use > Google but default to for example searx.me or duckduckgo.com. Agreed, and I think that's exactly what IceCat does. Please let me know if you think I'm mistaken about that. Mark