From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 18 04:08:27 2017 Received: (at 28479) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2017 08:08:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45540 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dtr6R-0000I3-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:08:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44251) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dtr6P-0000Hr-JZ for 28479@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:08:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dtr6E-0001hE-Oq for 28479@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:08:20 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58787) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dtr6E-0001hA-M8; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:08:14 -0400 Received: from [193.50.110.249] (port=59874 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dtr6E-0000B7-4q; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:08:14 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: ng0 Subject: Re: bug#28479: icecat-52.3.0-gnu1 includes Google in search engines References: <20170917124038.aheubmpxixzyx6ne@abyayala> <87wp4wk54l.fsf@netris.org> <20170918071100.hm4z3qjmmrkwvxh2@abyayala> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Jour du =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=A9nie?= de =?utf-8?Q?l'Ann?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9e?= 225 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:08:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20170918071100.hm4z3qjmmrkwvxh2@abyayala> (ng0@infotropique.org's message of "Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:11:00 +0000") Message-ID: <87tw00pgyb.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28479 Cc: Mark H Weaver , 28479@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hello, ng0 skribis: > Mark H Weaver transcribed 0.4K bytes: >> Hi, >>=20 >> ng0 writes: >>=20 >> > Is this an upstream bug? Should we patch to remove Google? >> > >> > I've just compared a completely new system (and Icecat profile) >> > with my default profile, both include Google in search engines. >> > >> > There's also Bing and Yahoo, I'm not sure if all 3 were present >> > before this version. >>=20 >> Why would it be considered a bug to give users the convenient option to >> use those search engines? >>=20 >> Mark > > For example the branch of firefox which Parabola distributes > makes changes not to default to Google. People rarely > change defaults, so we should give the option to use Google > but default to for example searx.me or duckduckgo.com. I sort-of agree with both of you. :-) Using a centralized search engine, be it Google or DuckDuckGo or even searx.me, is a threat to privacy. Of course the dominating position of Google makes it worse than the others, but let=E2=80=99s not pretend the ot= hers are white as snow. Besides, this is a discussion to have with IceCat upstream IMO. There=E2= =80=99s nothing Guix-specific here. So I=E2=80=99d close this one as =E2=80=9Cwont= fix=E2=80=9D. WDYT? Ludo=E2=80=99.