From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 12 17:54:00 2021 Received: (at 28173) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Oct 2021 21:54:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1maPii-0003fA-Go for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:54:00 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f46.google.com ([209.85.221.46]:42559) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1maPig-0003eV-I9 for 28173@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:53:59 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f46.google.com with SMTP id v17so1528954wrv.9 for <28173@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:53:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dnSGO/P4JLgOcBUsPGMpvYkrgtHXFjiP4cceLmc8Gvw=; b=jp6um2yJ1LKg6DPhfxcs0OmcBu1FQJfGkQx+wnxr64GzhQXAQ6GKKCPVaiWleN57Th 176hryC9jbW8z7pklG655Kx/NVoJo2kPwsMDN+gAE0974sh6AFOPY2NTdaHxMiNgPptX im01NQ0bkXC8aHruFT6Ms/VW3Se2JiPxxH4qy01pNT3VCQ4oms9XPzwO9G/KMFEVdWqw MB885fIusL7tlkx3oZ2Ahx2TY3stuW1NA8gklmKJxZRvyIGAbWEd63+oIMg50ZQ0L3Sc W9tfHTGJMBFx/C+6HkTVBk6cZwYPOgE494aZHrIE0sszrujNI0IsOwTDt2x7GFHQakMZ O0SQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dnSGO/P4JLgOcBUsPGMpvYkrgtHXFjiP4cceLmc8Gvw=; b=n9V3LFA7QDB4joX0ZJxhZ1X4Yet/M4XzS13LvSjb98tYhkW43xJ9wNh0Hcjeo3aizR CNYIDP69RGsWivrG3DMBJ7h1BXvbApxto/UBCaHpferhLWF4o9akoYK7ZTgFjmWnEi/u pgMA44G9klXWS8kBATyWIWEqfTfs0mh5fENsTjrU6b57wbZoBIyOcYCZOFD51NJmVepI Tg4PHPV+YsOaCpTNHZnItFKz3xw7ZhzmONj7EEcz0Oqwv7MDkOTz4cedyP5F7NPNjy+j qgkzaIW0JnRBqY6M/EK+dnmzPhLp4yvkzwS+b8aAY+bwA4kWe9H6mb1RsSxkCKEDWjdx W96A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533P1xjc0a5UmUPbJhQ3EeMmd/YEbycZYJ9GkwsD10/EWx4JFWlV rLM3cSzU8TQbGv4ICfgWSKyDu/fmtkoDMw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwpQac7dYKzIxIrEAHwc7FbErcGbV7H/Mj9QSUn9gjHcpwo/rvGLkOUhlLjZyifPJ/nhB8fwg== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c1cb:: with SMTP id a11mr8455558wmj.39.1634075632921; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lili ([2a01:e0a:59b:9120:65d2:2476:f637:db1e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e8sm17099244wrg.48.2021.10.12.14.53.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:53:52 -0700 (PDT) From: zimoun To: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: bug#28173: texlive-texmf-minimal not reproducible References: <20170821162347.7944d1c1@scratchpost.org> <87d17pvv5z.fsf@elephly.net> <87h8v8m250.fsf@elephly.net> <86fsu5rpfh.fsf@gmail.com> <8735q4pxr2.fsf@elephly.net> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 23:50:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8735q4pxr2.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Thu, 16 Sep 2021 13:26:25 +0200") Message-ID: <86o87tkj4b.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28173 Cc: Danny Milosavljevic , 28173@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ricardo, On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 at 13:26, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > Many of the modular texlive packages have reproducibility issues. > > Take texlive-cm for example. METAFONT writes a timestamp into > every generated font file > (e.g. /gnu/store/lkmiyfzi1bq571yn4gypbcs5vn4fpma7-texlive-cm-51265/share/= texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/cm/cmvtt10.600gf). > It also generates log files that contain timestamped lines like > these: > > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=9C=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80 +++ > /gnu/store/lkmiyfzi1bq571yn4gypbcs5vn4fpma7-texlive-cm-51265/share/texmf-= dist/fonts/tfm/public/cm/cmu10.log [..] > Perhaps we could just delete this log file. Yeah, maybe this file could be removed -- if this log file follows a pattern for the various TeXlive packages. For instance, these=E2=80=A6 > /gnu/store/2x6jddfgfg5rp342wsrsl5gssz2lkd06-texlive-union-51265/share/tex= mf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/updmap/: > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 15890 2021-09-16 11:24:07= builtin35.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 21363 2021-09-16 11:24:07= download35.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 21470 2021-09-16 11:24:07= psfonts_pk.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 21674 2021-09-16 11:24:07= psfonts_t1.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 21669 2021-09-16 11:24:07= ps2pk.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 14 2021-09-16 11:24:07= psfonts.map -> > psfonts_t1.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 15890 2021-09-16 11:24:06= builtin35.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 21363 2021-09-16 11:24:06= download35.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 21470 2021-09-16 11:24:06= psfonts_pk.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 21674 2021-09-16 11:24:06= psfonts_t1.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 21669 2021-09-16 11:24:06= ps2pk.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 14 2021-09-16 11:24:06= psfonts.map -> > psfonts_t1.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 > /gnu/store/2x6jddfgfg5rp342wsrsl5gssz2lkd06-texlive-union-51265/share/tex= mf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/: > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 21676 2021-09-16 11:24:07= pdftex_dl14.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 20011 2021-09-16 11:24:07= pdftex_ndl14.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 15 2021-09-16 11:24:07= pdftex.map -> > pdftex_dl14.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 21676 2021-09-16 11:24:06= pdftex_dl14.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 20011 2021-09-16 11:24:06= pdftex_ndl14.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 15 2021-09-16 11:24:06= pdftex.map -> > pdftex_dl14.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 > /gnu/store/2x6jddfgfg5rp342wsrsl5gssz2lkd06-texlive-union-51265/share/tex= mf-dist/fonts/map/dvipdfmx/updmap/: > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 - 413 2021-09-16 11:24:07= kanjix.map > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 + 413 2021-09-16 11:24:06= kanjix.map =E2=80=A6seem annoying. Is it possible to set the date at Big Bang, i.e., 1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC? Cheers, simon