From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 02 23:11:30 2017 Received: (at 28088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Sep 2017 03:11:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44431 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1doLJp-00026h-Oe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2017 23:11:30 -0400 Received: from rezeros.cc ([45.76.207.221]:56404) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1doLJn-00026Y-Bs for 28088@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2017 23:11:28 -0400 Received: from localhost (79.87.184.220.broad.hz.zj.dynamic.163data.com.cn [220.184.87.79]) by rezeros.cc (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 07948c8a (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Sun, 3 Sep 2017 03:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gift (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e272b163; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 03:11:18 +0000 (UTC) From: iyzsong@member.fsf.org (=?utf-8?B?5a6L5paH5q2m?=) To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: bug#28088: "The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files" with multiple applications In-Reply-To: <8760d0u50l.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Sun, 03 Sep 2017 00:09:30 +0200") References: <20170814192808.5ppgwpahwe4mre5h@abyayala> <20170814195645.ctqil2qdcusduvy5@abyayala> <87h8wys83v.fsf@member.fsf.org> <8760d0u50l.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2017 11:11:18 +0800 Message-ID: <87fuc4bhnt.fsf@member.fsf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28088 Cc: 28088@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > Hi! > > iyzsong@member.fsf.org (=E5=AE=8B=E6=96=87=E6=AD=A6) skribis: > >> GTK+ applications will provide accessibility support over this dbus >> service, so the AT-SPI clients (screen reader etc.) could use them. >> >> And this 'org.a11y.Bus' service can be auto activated by the dbus >> session daemon if the 'at-spi2-core' package is available. If not, >> we'll get thoese warnning from applications. > > It does sound like our GuixSD setup fails to activate org.a11y.Bus > though. Should we add a service in %desktop-services that extends > =E2=80=98dbus-root-service-type=E2=80=99 with =E2=80=98at-spi2-core=E2=80= =99 to ensure that > auto-activation works? It's not a dbus system service, we can extend 'profile-service-package' with 'at-spi2-core' to make it available for the user's dbus session daemon. > > I think we should strive to provide accessible environments when >possible, as with GNOME. Yes, but without a client (we only have 'orca') the AT-SPI service alone is not useful, maybe we should add Orca to both GNOME and Xfce? (I'm not a user of any, so can't be sure.)