From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 26 16:46:30 2022 Received: (at 26830) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2022 20:46:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54749 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nYDIs-0004AD-7q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2022 16:46:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nYDIq-0004A1-FR for 26830@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2022 16:46:28 -0400 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=60432 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nYDIi-0001NE-Hu; Sat, 26 Mar 2022 16:46:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=+XLAa3/rh/StRU0kkvgadJPh9JFv5TNXJurR+rYZTTM=; b=noGNjSz+ipV++WrdhqA4 yoka5I6MdQz1wA6fGcQr5ic2p2o+yg6Ls/v7VYAVzANjNCRgfFtBIr11LzaP8dfkrwAVEugxUAfCC crcMx/jqRb7bxwc9rFBV6Oq5fQW2bYMjZ4rl1I/OtW2oXSBC/OEvXbZMjro+kzTFnLJj5kvGGmKUT iGnl3kQLj58ufGp748DIKPKYmPCu8byp3GyuOoJJ43pfKI69CS1PM79Bi1p66I2YWh787WrkCfDwJ +kY5q+k+PbMU2JyNG+LgUHfeUujn04q3+de/nXiIgZwsxZ8049OK7CRu2BGVG7qmiPeaV3lnr4C1p er165Ic4cVBFVg==; Received: from 91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net ([91.160.117.201]:64104 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nYDIi-00076B-5r; Sat, 26 Mar 2022 16:46:20 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Oleg Pykhalov Subject: Re: [bug#26830] Allow services to implement a 'reload' action References: <87d1bjtlpd.fsf@lassieur.org> <86vapa6nyi.fsf@gmail.com> <87vap7kryj.fsf@gnu.org> <87bmbdigbj.fsf@gnu.org> <86lex0zv27.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <87wngjeo8l.fsf@gnu.org> <87lewztq2t.fsf@gmail.com> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 6 Germinal an 230 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 21:46:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lewztq2t.fsf@gmail.com> (Oleg Pykhalov's message of "Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:52:58 +0300") Message-ID: <87v8w07886.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26830 Cc: Mathieu Othacehe , =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Lassieur , 26830@debbugs.gnu.org, zimoun X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi, Oleg Pykhalov skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > > [=E2=80=A6] > >> I wonder if the patch as-is would achieve that though, because in >> general those daemons are run with =E2=80=98-c /gnu/store/=E2=80=A6-conf= ig=E2=80=99, so >> reloading would just reload the same file. > > Maybe we could switch to another practice in service definitions: > > =E2=80=98/gnu/store/...-some-program/bin/some-program -c /etc/some-config= =E2=80=99 > > $ ls -l /etc/static > /etc/static -> /gnu/store/...-etc/etc > > $ ls -l /etc/some-config > /etc/some-config -> /etc/static/some-config Hmm yes, we could (I think Maxim did that recently for a service, I forgot which one.) I like the clarity of =E2=80=98-c /gnu/store/=E2=80=A6-config=E2=80=99 bett= er than the ambient authority and ambiguity of =E2=80=98/etc/config=E2=80=99, but I guess we ha= ve to made a tradeoff. Ludo=E2=80=99.