From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 08 05:16:41 2017 Received: (at 25296) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2017 10:16:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46477 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQAWn-0001dM-D8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:16:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48604) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQAWm-0001dA-EG for 25296@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:16:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQAWe-0007lT-5J for 25296@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:16:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQAWe-0007lP-2T; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:16:32 -0500 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:45224 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cQAWd-0001iT-Dk; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:16:31 -0500 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Quiliro Subject: Re: bug#25296: fully functional desktop installation In-Reply-To: <20170108041145.6d9a5cbc@riseup.net> (quiliro@riseup.net's message of "Sun, 8 Jan 2017 04:11:45 -0500") References: <20161229171045.263747a9@riseup.net> <87bmvpb21m.fsf@gnu.org> <20170108041145.6d9a5cbc@riseup.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 19 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 225 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:16:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87shotx3eq.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25296 Cc: 25296@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Hi Quiliro! Quiliro skribis: > On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 22:11:01 +0100 > ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) wrote: [...] >> The desktop example contains all of GNOME, when choosing GNOME, which >> provides an email client, Web browser, and lots of other things. > > I don't find the email client. > The web browser will not reproduce videos. This is a bug that needs to be treated separately. Clearly Nautilus should be able to play videos. > I have no idea how to chat in Gnome. (Of course I will investigate.) There=E2=80=99s Pidgin, but maybe it=E2=80=99s not really part of GNOME. > What you say makes sense. But what users that cannot learn to install > need to work on their own matters is very important in order for them to > be able to advocate the free system. Perhaps we do not want to promote > the use of Flash or Microsoft Office formats. These issues are > critical. But they are not against the FSDGs. And the user must notice > we are able to offer those capabilities. We must always insist in > suggesting to use the libre alternatives. In this case, we should not > avoid including the ability to read those formats. I agree, but again, I think GNOME provides everything for these tasks. Also, at this point, the target audience of GuixSD is not =E2=80=9Cusers th= at cannot learn to install=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94if someone managed to install Guix= SD, surely they=E2=80=99ll find out how to install LibreOffice. > I have also had problems with Mimetypes. Many files will not open > because the Gnome will not identify which program is appropriate. Sounds like a bug. Could you report all the details to bug-guix@gnu.org: how to reproduce, what you expected, and what you got? Thank you! Ludo=E2=80=99.