From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 30 08:18:28 2018 Received: (at 22629) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2018 12:18:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38014 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fvLu8-00044Q-Bf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 08:18:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46439) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fvLu7-00044D-KF for 22629@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 08:18:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvLty-0003jL-LQ for 22629@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 08:18:22 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45029) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvLty-0003jD-Eb; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 08:18:18 -0400 Received: from [193.50.110.186] (port=42842 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fvLty-0003VU-6n; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 08:18:18 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Konrad Hinsen Subject: =?utf-8?B?4oCcU3RhYmxl4oCd?= branch References: <87vb5vsffd.fsf@gnu.org> <87pny2iks2.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekagtg9.fsf@netris.org> <87zhx5msfl.fsf@pompo.co> <87lg8pccys.fsf_-_@netris.org> <87zhx59gh3.fsf@elephly.net> <875zzs9wzl.fsf@netris.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 13 Fructidor an 226 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 14:18:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Konrad Hinsen's message of "Thu, 30 Aug 2018 12:10:56 +0200") Message-ID: <874lfcxd2v.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22629 Cc: Mark H Weaver , 22629@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Hi Konrad, Konrad Hinsen skribis: > The minimal stable foundation would have to include the file system > layout of profiles, to make sure that users can mix packages from both > versions safely. It would also be highly desirable to share the store, > whose layout would then have to be part of the foundation as well. > > Moreover, I suspect it would be preferable or even necessary to have > only one daemon running - if that's true, then the daemon's > communication protocol would have be part of the foundation as well. > > Without a common foundation, a stable version would have to be a > completely autonomous fork, which should then probably adopt a different > name as well. I don't think this is desirable, in particular for GuixSD > which would lose most of its interest if it required multiple package > managers. These are all things that very rarely, if ever, changed over the last 5 years. I expect the change rate to remain the same. :-) You seem to be arguing of a =E2=80=9Cstable=E2=80=9D branch in the sense th= at the Guix tools (the CLI in particular) wouldn=E2=80=99t change much, is that correct? I=E2=80=99m asking because there are several ways to define =E2=80=9Cstable= .=E2=80=9D Initially I thought what you had in mind was like the =E2=80=9Cstable=E2=80=9D branch= in Debian, meaning that packages only get security updates. To me that=E2=80=99s a different thing. Ludo=E2=80=99.