From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 16 16:00:20 2021 Received: (at 44559) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2021 21:00:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41774 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lC7SG-0006L7-Ix for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:00:20 -0500 Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.25]:45535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lC7SE-0006Ks-HM for 44559@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:00:19 -0500 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67495C82 for <44559@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:00:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=carldong.me; h= from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:to; s=fm3; bh=pdkffQ3f37N2hztbGSh+QHjKGbtQoWOV4 c1N31zr32c=; b=CWYk8YGpyHGKXu9X+4lYw6d8gQucyz/GgCICQX2PetoniZHaj 1ezcfNcMA7NwD/tCNGwgno3tKqpTSh/y5NAnEKEJK/G7E/OtKbU9o8tcorEFjCko ENtQcauj+fRFIeu6pxR99SGE7paErLylW/7IuH41Zoymqb766PR8pN00CgU+SQhJ /XYWCp5TmEdoRLdxwWMwLrfqkAfvTREicx0wOPj+PJ1HZnBL6Tz6czaIODw6Qo/F YJLa+pzu6GFL2EOPhgic6gv/er9vlAQ6TArNRgsFZmxndBLOKOoAeRdZ80w/3kFm h7vwUu5mbLXXPcXHi5R9HURIMTmTeoZzFlOiQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=pdkffQ 3f37N2hztbGSh+QHjKGbtQoWOV4c1N31zr32c=; b=WiqBp6SyE5pI4fI+f1YHUk Nd/t+oS7PX1uZOBDyqzWvu8NZUD33lpnmi7kehN60BoUDcke5baUQQ0vzlmpinpu OPf4ds535efBCO58yghPuZQlPqh6fD+RBqzzAg1voDRuVAXle5LhCbD6Wii0nywg Ae1n3ueu9e9ytfSW9pe/wI6GVTzT5GU/RMmMOSgoaBwckqEOozoReLxJquZ81Ovf bT6QK6DjmWB0mHrj1vLjyEad8dpuAgFY8IPr/99iTapO+zrEjGzXte3QZOE0Pyys 5th2XQAwDzyF8FtohWNKQeWg3Lx0cOU2Zv69dtJEx3RTCjzi1tdFHcmShb6AkT7Q == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrjedtgddugeefucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefhtgfgggfukfffvffosehtqhhmtd hhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpeevrghrlhcuffhonhhguceotghonhhtrggtthestggrrhhlugho nhhgrdhmvgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffekvddtgefgfeeuhfekvefhgfeludffud dvgeehfeethedugeeuffeuudetleffnecukfhppeeliedrvdefledrudejrddvgedvnecu vehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheptghonhhtrg gtthestggrrhhlughonhhgrdhmvg X-ME-Proxy: Received: from [192.168.0.6] (pool-96-239-17-242.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [96.239.17.242]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E22921080068 for <44559@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:00:11 -0500 (EST) From: Carl Dong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: bug#44559 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:00:11 -0500 To: 44559@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44559 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi all, As bitcoin core begins the planning to officially transition to = Guix-based releases, I've had many community members build guix v1.2.0 = from source and afterward attempt `--bootstrap --no-substitutes` builds. = As you may imagine, they are getting stuck on this gnutls problem and = cannot proceed further. I'm wondering: 1. Is there a workaround that does not involve changing the system time? = We have attempted several flags: 1. --with-graft=3Dgnutls=3Dgnutls@3.6.14 2. --without-tests=3Dgnutls 3. --with-input=3Dgnutls=3Dgnutls@3.6.14 These attempts all failed to work around this bug, and I=E2=80=99m= curious as to why that would be. My guess would be that when we do = `--bootstrap`, Guix bootstraps itself first without taking into account = these flags? 2. Since bootstrappability is one of the core tenets of Guix, might it = be appropriate to cut a v1.2.1 release with this problem (and any other = potential bootstrap problems) fixed? (Happy to discuss in separate = thread if more appropriate) Cheers, Carl Dong contact@carldong.me "I fight for the users"