From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 04 13:50:49 2021 Received: (at 42162) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2021 17:50:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38340 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mXS6z-0006zl-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 13:50:49 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com ([209.85.221.50]:35565) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mXS6u-0006zW-Uj for 42162@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 13:50:47 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id v25so21496123wra.2 for <42162@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5m/+BW7fQYRaHhKhhpet1HlsNQZO9DH+cNzw1JmfFCE=; b=X2+sh7sLAc9qb6rtEDQ7eYrC7gu+t3LmmAFK98D+gX295cfqdtJoP8yjReO1JkKvGG +NqxTpKryCf44OacscbKceCGPFFHM712u8yPVQQv+r8P4APKXcycmBidnj3lGjxJJDG4 k8NAm0BinhU+KDkFh2gs05vfsATbiOhJshi4eNdEwaWBASbuPPYDIMcOXdxyjSHgcBGq PB5wDlzRWKSCTWnCnlJzMvps1OTRXnRA1HBpnWUqF31ZRULErGHSn9/l5NkOzG1yUr6m uTOTzaX68AEuEscnDR5o6NMUJbDhS3eIANKfyW8JHV/nOKBsd2du1+hysiG9kdpJmb0q QPVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5m/+BW7fQYRaHhKhhpet1HlsNQZO9DH+cNzw1JmfFCE=; b=VzR5gyH1rp/ItIn+1QKoM8x30HrnrV4nfRyU5PCb4TkUTRnpkDOJLqZU2ErwrYPOuM E/iKYVm+5Y2ajrAqiSxeFrftYYHYkBvodr3MAqtc6r7sS4kb+SnyHM77fwIRWd566v6o guPrNOzBcQ9o9m7ziGYbq6Ctawn/pbOC3ATcTwsOWJ5/ReBFVyPwHUW04sjEbKGw1WYa NhsA2BQNPijV2tqp1VhjEtQk10z2g7G4EOMSDwt7i2fXiOmCOtssMvDkYh+Iioj+zbcu tRDXZcThzjpmeIwc088/8zuFwXYiAYzxRg9Grl35Z5la9GB+hYmMTk+u7YwAvraPQ1Cb jeQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Ws2WteB/R8f7NcoiZjVyEc7fnm2Vk1+kdOe9+mpICVNOVUikC S58MIoogqF4akVZV+t1TXec= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwzUFW/lVzSbMm9oqp5VjznphUeuxC/CiXruf2Lz32nQBua3ByAnFSxfyETurdpX8xmHJwAKw== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:64cd:: with SMTP id f13mr15821335wri.419.1633369839037; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pfiuh02 ([193.48.40.241]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y6sm3693766wro.63.2021.10.04.10.50.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: zimoun To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: bug#42162: gforge.inria.fr to be taken off-line in Dec. 2020 References: <87a6tdce94.fsf@inria.fr> <87mu4iv0gc.fsf@inria.fr> <87v9c0ap22.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87wnmsn5lz.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 19:50:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wnmsn5lz.fsf_-_@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= =?utf-8?Q?=22's?= message of "Mon, 04 Oct 2021 17:59:20 +0200") Message-ID: <87bl44vfvg.fsf_-_@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42162 Cc: 42162@debbugs.gnu.org, Maurice =?utf-8?Q?Br=C3=A9mond?= , Maxim Cournoyer , andreas.enge@inria.fr X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ludo, On Mon, 04 Oct 2021 at 17:59, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Believe it or not, gforge.inria.fr was finally phased out on > Sept. 30th. And believe it or not, despite all the work and all the > chat :-), we lost the source tarball of Scotch 6.1.1 for a short period > of time (I found a copy and uploaded it to berlin a couple of hours > ago). Euh, I do not understand. From bug#43442 [1] on Wed, 16 Sep 2020, Scotch was not missing. And from [2] neither. Nah, the hole is the (double) update (from 6.0.6 to 6.1.0 then 6.1.1) without manually taking care of this bug report; by switching from url-fetch to git-fetch for instance. Somehow, it was bounded to happen because we lack automatic tools despite the fact they are there. Indeed, hard to believe. :-) As I am asking in this thread [3], the Guix project has the ressource, storage speaking, to archive these tarballs -- waiting a robust long-term automatic system. But we (the Guix projet) cannot because we duplicate the effort on keeping twice all the build outputs. Somehow, between Berlin and Bordeaux, coherent policies for conservancy are missing. IMHO. 1: 2: 3: > All this to say that we must really get our act together with Disarchive > :-), and salvage all these tarballs until then. Definetly! We are witnesssing missing tarballs here. But many more could be missing from Berlin or Bordeaux and also upstream should have disappeared. Cheers, simon