From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 30 12:51:53 2016 Received: (at 25248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2016 17:51:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60575 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cN1LM-000668-Gy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:51:52 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-f54.google.com ([209.85.218.54]:33791) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cN0qn-0005No-KL for 25248@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:20:18 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 128so233534959oig.0 for <25248@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:20:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0iIX/21TNnC9RrhPiI4LtCuOKRoR8sPdwVDzUvqGZ9E=; b=sRFQLkP5XshwiQWppLXodyY9i6NVs0CBPhGjUUQlr6o2U7CL73zzyH88ZK4j1VG/st HOW0OmibjhkQ8it9SkSeicl96KXfyI9mNfaX6TV+LSG+nWSYaHDERqyxi1jdWB9j1CAL BjI9TkzcbPtfH9uKqzmjlu0FVMQrDXf7GjjyBFORe6t5NPjQ9lt46UoYF7/eaRiYa74Y YYdw+K95QeXjgXmEVnqvAmdngqpw/11FtyGjNKir/DY1Jjuo87LOEDQzgVgge6XajbjG OGUbQkCO3O95aNowl+VSGg4hM1gMzBnuZx76NGyYFcREbn+92wRP9nGwG9cq2c1q8oDX 39Dw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0iIX/21TNnC9RrhPiI4LtCuOKRoR8sPdwVDzUvqGZ9E=; b=nppm9aYmHYKqDDEukhgw2B7ysEipl4zrHH1YT2KYO93d5wBCWgHrm/22PKliZM2nGz w8iqYifUzkkWrjP0nmkue0qaPJAQSfs8AIfAlimwlBZ94rgZIjEQ7/sCZUNkjODX3AwS 0fb04BEEs2O9vaO/AbLE72xX/tH6OdV53LsH/ATeQl1StLT5K7pK7J7wQuNbs21iM/1P uerLW6COadWCw6FZQcSP14r1W0vMgksfZIG5UI017I3k77oGwNUXXFli+HyaJIEp1/X0 HtweIgAb2gBQ8sVrTMb3CPNXUUG2K1lewOB1TvsPVjtlCSgmRo5ekhrDgbbGCizCIUkb +tsg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLwC8mcfqHXit7HGw41ilNKDvGvFJLjlFpEWgCGsEbIxNuNoNXk+EZeuInn9GdyKVHTi+YXg2AICZ6GuA== X-Received: by 10.202.205.71 with SMTP id d68mr19930231oig.120.1483118411707; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:20:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.74.139.116 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:20:11 -0800 (PST) From: Gennadii Kondratiev Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:20:11 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! GRUB1 and GRUB2 To: 25248@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134f16c16f85e0544e36afc X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25248 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:51:51 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) --001a1134f16c16f85e0544e36afc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable #Hello! # #Thanks for your kind words and encouragement! # #As far as GRUB is concerned, please email 25248@debbugs.gnu.org detailed #information about what you expected and what you get (wrong behavior, #error messages, etc.), and how one can reproduce it. This information #is crucial in allowing us to debug and fix the problems you experience. # #Thanks for your support! # #Ludo=E2=80=99. I wrote to Ludovic Cortes that you should include Legacy Grub into GNU packages, because it can be installed in any place (e.g., on the root partition), but Grub 2 has this feature blocked by default (at least, all people in the Internet say so). Or it would be better to unblock this feature in Grub2. Even with the powerful Grub people can make less harm to their conputers than, for example, with fdisk, which you like and include everywhere. I installed GuixSD with big difficulties, and at the end I could not boot it. Of course, I booted via Aptosid Grub, but it is not very nice to use a bootloader from another OS. You do very amazing and advanced things and do not worry about some simple things. A good bootloader is important. Just, please, recover the ability of Grub 2 to write on the disk. At now moment it says that it needs to calculate block sizes, something like that. When people write --force option, it says that everything is ok, but in reality it does not write on the disk. Happy New Year! Gennadii. --001a1134f16c16f85e0544e36afc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
#Hello!
#
#Thanks for your kind words and encouragement!
#
#As far as GRUB is concerned, please email 25248@debbugs.gnu.org detailed
#information about what you expected and what you get (wrong behavior,
#error messages, etc.), and how one can reproduce it.=C2=A0 This informatio= n
#is crucial in allowing us to debug and fix the problems you experience. #
#Thanks for your support!
#
#Ludo=E2=80=99.

I wrote to Ludovic Cortes that you should incl= ude Legacy Grub into GNU packages, because it can be installed in any place= (e.g., on the root partition), but Grub 2 has this feature blocked by defa= ult (at least, all people in the Internet say so). Or it would be better to= unblock this feature in Grub2. Even with the powerful Grub people can make= less harm to their conputers than, for example, with fdisk, which you like= and include everywhere.

I installed GuixSD with big difficul= ties, and at the end I could not boot it. Of course, I booted via Aptosid G= rub, but it is not very nice to use a bootloader from another OS.

You do very amazing and advanced things and do not worry about some sim= ple things. A good bootloader is important.

Just, please, reco= ver the ability of Grub 2 to write on the disk. At now moment it says that = it needs to calculate block sizes, something like that. When people write -= -force option, it says that everything is ok, but in reality it does not wr= ite on the disk.

Happy New Year!

Gennadii.
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